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I'm trying to make a reasonable (VAS-wide) decision regarding further purchases for my P3D and since I've been always a big fan of UT series since FS2004 times, I'm wondering whether this package (FT Global + UT USA/EU) would compensate the lack of FT Vector and FT LC (Europe). What I understood (perhaps I'm wrong here), UT is essentially "two-in-one" combo that replicates Vector + LC. 

 

I mean the following;  FTX Base + FTX Vector + FTX LC EU = FTX Base + UT USA/Europe = less VAS with the former.

 

Correct?

 

Thank you

 

Dmitriy

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I'm trying to make a reasonable (VAS-wide) decision regarding further purchases for my P3D and since I've been always a big fan of UT series since FS2004 times, I'm wondering whether this package (FT Global + UT USA/EU) would compensate the lack of FT Vector and FT LC (Europe). What I understood (perhaps I'm wrong here), UT is essentially "two-in-one" combo that replicates Vector + LC. 

 

I use global and UTX V2 its great - will get Europe also - I use UTX V2 lights shut off global lights - I will not be purchasing vector for USA - UTX V2 is excellent its also better on fps than vector for Europe which I dont use anymore

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Thank you, Richard

 

Great to hear that my suspicions were right!

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Thank you, Richard

 

Great to hear that my suspicions were right!

 

Your welcome you wont be disappointed - you need to set the lights up in the lights menu - a little time consuming but well worth it they look awesome 

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I have Global, Vector, OpenLC & UTX. I ultimately disabled Vector and OpenLC.  The difference is noticeable in a very good way. Staying with UTX.

 

Allen of UTX did a VAS test in FSX but it also applies to P3d and UTX uses less.

 

Also, UTX is using he latest and most accurate data available. Don't think you can go wrong.

 

 

Vic

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Vic, that's good to know. I think I'll pick up UTX and give it a spin.

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I'll throw my 2 cents in to this as well.  I always used GEX/UTX in FSX.  I decided to change over to FTX Global last year along with Vector when it was released.  I quickly removed Vector as I was very unhappy with it due to the performance hit and I just didn't think it looked nearly as good as UTX.  I did keep FTX Global but went back to UTX.  UTX 2.0 came out and it's even better!  Night ights are fantastic! FTXG and UTX 2.0 is a nice combo in FSX.

 

Now a week ago I caved and bought P3D 2.5,  I figured I would do the same setup there.  Well, the disappointing thing for me after installing FTXG was that my night textures looked terrible.  Default P3D night textures IMHO are great.  It has a nice orange glow and is visable from a distance. FTXG killed this effect which is a big deal for me. So, I am now back to default P3D textures and using UTX 2.0.  Night now looks fantastic....much better than FSX!  I can live with the default P3D day textures for now, they really aren't bad.  I do believe GEX may be planning a new product for P3D so I will wait and see what that brings.

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I'll throw my 2 cents in 

 

Exactly - vector performance hit I took was not worth it so looking forward to purchase the UTX Europe V2 version soon - lights setup to your liking is awesome

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Okey, thanks again for saving me a little bit of money.

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Interesting thread, I have FTXG and UTX 1.xx, all regions.

 

I love the FTXG 3D lights on UTX roads utility. Will that be possible to get with UTX 2.xx, or is it obsolete? Does UTX 2 provide 3D lights as FTXG?

 

Cheers,

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There is still a problem of installing UTX 2.0 US into P3Dv2.5+ as mentioned in their support forum. Though, there is a workarround and they will publish UTX 2.1 US soon, which will adress this issue. UTX 2.0 EU installer is already aware of the new file structure in P3Dv2.5+.

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So nice to finally have UTX in the P3D world. It's been a rather long wait but well worth it.  :smile:

 

Cheers,

Clayton

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Interesting thread, I have FTXG and UTX 1.xx, all regions.

 

I love the FTXG 3D lights on UTX roads utility. Will that be possible to get with UTX 2.xx, or is it obsolete? Does UTX 2 provide 3D lights as FTXG?

 

Cheers,

 

UTX 2.0 makes that utility obsolete since the UTX 3D lighting is MUCH better than the Vector lighting.....IMO

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Flic1, 

 

I find it interesting that you prefer the default P3D night textures over any addons.  I agree they do provide a nice orange glow at a distance, but what distance are you talking about... 20,000 feet, 30 miles away? 

 

When you get close, say approach or on final don't you find them unrealistically bright?  Again, just seeking your own personal opinion on this as I said I find simmer's comments on night lighting (what works for them or not), very interesting because of a project I am working on.

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so UTX better then FTX ?

IMHO, yes.

 

Re; UTX Alaska - Allen is taking a well deserved vacation for a week but will be back at it soon. All the UTX areas are scheduled for updates to P3D down the line. I have no info as to which order they will be released. I do know that the first order of business will be the updated installer for UTX USA 2.0.

 

Vic

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so UTX better then FTX ?

 

They are both good just personal preference - there is no FTX vector for the USA so I thought I would try it and so glad I did - also keep in mind I have not seen one decent screenshot of UTX V2 USA or Europe that shows how good it is - after I load it into P3D 2.5 I will post some shots its excellent - side note you will see a performance hit with FTX Vector and not with UTX V2 at least on my rig - I do not have Europe yet so cant comment on that yet

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i will like to see screenshot richard if possible. im from canada theres for Canada to?

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here is no FTX vector for the USA

 

I am assuming you mean there is no FTX OpenLC NA yet, right?  FTX Vector is for the whole world, isn't it?  Or have I been thinking wrong this entire time?  :)

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I'm wondering if they have UT Canada in plans. Badly needed for the chain of CYVR/CYYZ/CYUL sceneries.

 

Amazingly, but after many years of ignoring Canada in FS, developers now bring all 3 major hubs in P3D. Well-deserved.

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I am assuming you mean there is no FTX OpenLC NA yet, right?  FTX Vector is for the whole world, isn't it?  Or have I been thinking wrong this entire time?  :)

 

Yes you are correct Kevin sorry about that - so I use UTX V2 USA  - FSgenesis Mesh and FTX Global for textures - thats it until I purchase UTX V2 Europe 

 

As for Canada I would assume that will be in the works also

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Thanks, interesting thread.  Am currently using FTX Global + Vector, but am still fine-tuning a new install and am open to anything that improves performance.  Happy to try an FTX Global plus UTX combination.

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