A picture paints a 1000 words - an example of why XP10 is good for VFR - this is W2XP UK Pro with Flight 1/RC Simulations VFR photoscenery - same can be done with other other regional photoscnery and W2XP.

 

Water...

 

On my new system, XP-10 water is WOW facter. Especially the relections. I've heard that others have problems with the reflections, being jagged, etc. Not here. I7 3960x, GeForce 980

Do you mean you fly with the default airport and scenery in PR3D...good luck 

Trade off is simple: spend months (actually weeks for me) or spend tons of bucks...no shortcut

 

With UT, Looks fine to me, and I don't have to live with crappy flight models. 

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A picture paints a 1000 words - an example of why XP10 is good for VFR - this is W2XP UK Pro with Flight 1/RC Simulations VFR photoscenery - same can be done with other other regional photoscnery and W2XP.

 

 

 

Rendering capabilities have never been XPX's problem.
The issue is no 3rd parties have wanted to actually make viable add-ons to the scenery (for lots of reasons).

 

Also, most of us (including Laminar) are in areas where OSM data is garbage and thus tools like W2XP are essentially useless unfortunately.

 

Please no comments about "make the scenery yourself" or "add to the OSM data so it gets better".  Does that stuff help?
Sure.  But most of us have busy lives and are wanting to pay someone with more skill, more time, more access, etc to create products we can support and enjoy with the time and resources we have available.

 

XPX's problem continues to be "3rd party support" primarily.
If there were OrbX type regions and a better WX engine (native one allowing better extensibility), XPX would be far more popular.

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A picture paints a 1000 words - an example of why XP10 is good for VFR - this is W2XP UK Pro with Flight 1/RC Simulations VFR photoscenery - same can be done with other other regional photoscnery and W2XP.

 

 

Great shot! That's why I love XP-10!  B) 

It has a lot to offer and is IMO superior in terms of "realism". 

 

XP-10 going Android? I have the impression that XP-10's MacOS' activities are actually lagging behind the Windows developments. (Desktop market shares: Windows 90.82%, MacOS 4.2%)

http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0

 

If there will be/is a great Android simulation platform (like 3D vision and/or augmented reality) I would be the first to quit e.g. all the "Nvidia drivers vs. FSX/P3D/XP10" nuisance... :blink: 

Do you have time to maintain both?  I still have XPX 10.35 (or whatever version it was) on my hard drive, but I have not touched it in months.  I have probably 500$ invested in it on payware aircrafts and sceneries, but without the high altitude visibility fix, weather fix and seasons, the sim did not cut it for me.  I don't have much time these days, so P3D v2.5 is the one I use.  It's familiar, has all the add-ons that I need, and since I am picky with my choice of aircrafts, spent more time on flying and enjoying simming than encountered 3rd party issues (free plug-in in XPX stopped working etc.).  I tried XP9, found it not up to what expected then, tried XPX now with more skins in the game (money invested), and once I hope for more faster enhancements from the developer for items that I considered basics, but that day keeps being pushed out and there are perpetual talk about only having the issues solved in XP 11.  For me at least I had enough.  For others XPX is the answer.  

 

It all came down to what works for you and what you are looking for.  I don't want work.  Hobby should be something you enjoy doing.  If a sim platform give you that, stick with it.  Good luck.

Yep - P3D is just magic on the new hardware. Wanted to make room on the "games" drive for the Witcher so XP came off...hadn't fired it up in weeks.

Good replies in the thread in general...  

 

I think the guys who say the scenery in XP10 is better mostly fly in the UK/Europe, IOW - NON USA flying.  I've seen those crazy ortho sceneries plus autogen (is that the g2pxl or whatever?)  It looks so real.  But the USA doesn't have that stuff for some reason.  So I'm stuck with poor landclass adaptation over here.  We have the nice HD Mesh sceneries which do help a bit but you won't really find a screenshot like above in USA.  (There are exceptions obviously... but most of the US is boring).

 

I actually find a suped up FSX/P3D to be about as good as XP10 in the USA.  If you use Flight1's UTX and GEX cities / landclass look pretty good both day and night.  (Still night in XP10 beats FSX/P3D).  But on average they're really similar.  The look of the scenery/mesh/texture is different between the sims but that's ok!  More options for me!!!

 

One minor thing at night I've grown fond of in XP10 is obstacles, mainly TV/radio antennas.  Those subtle flashing red lights look 100% so real (based on my limited rw experience at night).  We have a large antenna farm near my home airport of KDLH and in XP there are the antennas...  they look exactly right to me!  It's the little things... But I could go on about the little things in FSX/P3D.

 

Honestly, dang, I just love having options.  I'm happily using all three (well mostly happily...  I spend time with one sim and give up and go over to another, then come back a week later LOL).

 

If you're looking for true realism try out Pilot Edge....  you'll talk to real controllers on whatever sim platform you prefer (supports FS9/X/P3D/XP9 and 10).  We all think we're hot stuff sim pilots until you try flying VFR through the LA class B hehe!  Adding comms is the ultimate realism!

The available add-ons, of all types of aircraft ( less the rotary wing, which have only, IMO, a worth mentioning representative - DODOSIM ) for the MSFS / P3D platforms are way ahead of their XP10 counterparts.

 

Pick the best airliner available for XP10 and compare it to a PMDG.... Pick the best GA in XP10, and compare it to the quality of A2A's, RealAIr's, Milviz, .... 

 

Add to it ATC robots, AI injectors, weather injectors, and I really don't think night flying, and the extraordinary effects of World2XP can really overcome those offers.... MSFS / P3D can be old and "only" 32 bit, but heck.... They're still the best option for many reasons, if you want to simulate civil flying....

Some very good posts in this thread.

 

I own both, but hardly use X-Plane. Main reason being the lack of add-on planes that manage to arouse my interest. I hope the IXEG 737 and the upcoming MD80 change that.

 

Other reason is that I am just more familiar with P3D and have invested a lot of time and money to make it look and work as it currently does. 

 

What I do really like in XP are the color reproduction and atmospheric effects (using Real Terra Haze). I can't help but feel that P3D (using FTX Global and other Orbx products) feels a bit cartoony in comparison.

I gave up on X-Plane9/10 purely because of the flight modelling. It had alot of other stuff to like (graphics, smoothness, default scenery etc).

 

In X-Plane it felt as though I was flying the scenery around the aircraft whereas in P3D it feels like I am flying the aircraft around the scenery (as in real life). 

 

That's the only way I can describe it!

I gave up on X-Plane9/10 purely because of the flight modelling. It had alot of other stuff to like (graphics, smoothness, default scenery etc).

 

In X-Plane it felt as though I was flying the scenery around the aircraft whereas in P3D it feels like I am flying the aircraft around the scenery (as in real life). 

 

That's the only way I can describe it!

 

I couldn't find a better way to describe it :-)

I couldn't find a better way to describe it :-)

 

+2 - That's an excellent description.

 

I've long said that XP needs to up their game.  If P3D goes 64bit at some point (which I think they likely will), it's probably back to the little niche for XP (some would say they've never left that status).

 

It doesn't give me pleasure to say that either, as I really enjoy having options.  I wish there was a vibrant 3rd party market for *both* sims.

 

 

Pick the best airliner available for XP10 and compare it to a PMDG.... Pick the best GA in XP10, and compare it to the quality of A2A's, RealAIr's, Milviz, ....

 

There isn't anyone in the MSFS world that compares to these developers. They're the pinnacle on whatever platform they're on. Apparently PMDG has seen something worthwhile in x-plane, otherwise they wouldn't be spending the effort or development time working on moving their aircraft to this platform. 

 

 

Apparently PMDG has seen something worthwhile in x-plane, otherwise they wouldn't be spending the effort or development time working on moving their aircraft to this platform. 

 

They've been saying they are "coming" for over 2 years!