November 7, 20169 yr Don't forget to keep your current installers safe boys should you need them again...
November 7, 20169 yr You can try to think positive, if you are inclined to. Perhaps LM is just ironing out the last loose ends in the 3-series, declaring the VAS issue unresolvable within the 32 bit framework anyway and concentring on release of the 64 bit version from now? Kind regards, Michael Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel / LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440 / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11
November 7, 20169 yr Maybe we should all draw straws, and the one drawing the short straw has to install the hotfix and tell us all what happens. :wink:
November 7, 20169 yr I will staying with 3.3.5. Hotfix does not appear to address the VAS issues. Regards, Chris -- PC: Intel 13900K, Gigabyte Geforce RTX 4090, 64GB Fury Beast DDR5 RAM; Display: Varjo Aero VR
November 7, 20169 yr You can try to think positive, if you are inclined to. Perhaps LM is just ironing out the last loose ends in the 3-series, declaring the VAS issue unresolvable within the 32 bit framework anyway and concentring on release of the 64 bit version from now? Kind regards, Michael Thats some pretty wishful thinking there Michael. Let me guess.... you want 64bit. Josh Daniels-Johannson
November 7, 20169 yr I will give it a try after I have created a system image and a restore point. Who knows there might be a VAS fix hidden You can try to think positive, if you are inclined to. Perhaps LM is just ironing out the last loose ends in the 3-series, declaring the VAS issue unresolvable within the 32 bit framework anyway and concentring on release of the 64 bit version from now? Kind regards, Michael I am 55 yo and I smoke, Do you think P3D 64 will be out before I kick the bucket? :wink: Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore(water Cooled) EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid, 64 DD4 @ 2800 2 x 2x M.2 in raid 0.
November 7, 20169 yr I will give it a try after I have created a system image and a restore point. Who knows there might be a VAS fix hidden I am 55 yo and I smoke, Do you think P3D 64 will be out before I kick the bucket? :wink: I do. I just can't imagine LM being fond of the honor making the last 32 bit flightsim sim of the world. Kind regards, Michael Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel / LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440 / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11
November 7, 20169 yr I will also install it, being brave...(well actually I'll be doing a format next days so no worries ). Imagine a hidden big performance improvement but no-one installed it after reading this thread.. Simulators: Prepar3D v5.4 | X-Plane 12 | DCS World | MSFS 2024 | PC Hardware: Dell U3417W | AMD Ryzen 7 9800 X3D | ASUS TUF 5070 Ti | ASUS TUF B580 Plus Wifi | G.Skill Z5 Neo 64GB 3000Mhz CL30 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB + 970 EVO Plus 1TB + 860 EVO 2TB + 850 EVO 1TB, Western Digital Black Caviar Black 6TB | Corsair RM1000i | Corsair 280 Titan RX | VRM Fan | Fractal Design Define S2 Gunmetal | Flight Controls: Fulcrum One Yoke | Virpil VPC WarBRD Base | Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM Grip, Thrustmaster Warthog+F/A-18C Grip | VIER IM POTT Sidestick CPT Side | Thrustmaster TPR Rudder Pedals | Virtual Fly TQ6+Throttle Quadrant | Sismo B737 Max Gear Lever | Monsterteck Desk Mounts | WINWING EfisL+FCU+MCDU | My fleet catalog: Link
November 7, 20169 yr So many "VAS Issues"... That's really odd. I have more than 400 airports installed, everything terrain from ORBX and just took off from Vancouver to land in Guadalajara with 900MB free on the ground after passing through canada, LAX, and so on. Aerosoft airbus, 2560x1440 resolution, flying online... D**n me if i ever get memory issues with P3D. Edited November 7, 20169 yr by Jim Young Fixed inappropriate language CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11
November 7, 20169 yr I do. I just can't imagine LM being fond of the honor making the last 32 bit flightsim sim of the world. Kind regards, Michael It's a shame the hotfix does not address VAS directly. But maybe expecting this from a 32 bit sim is unreasonable. I won't be installing this one methinks. I think 64 bit is the way forward-certainly for me-because I fly in VR now and need all the VAS I can get.. X-plane 10 and the upcoming 11 version have got my attention now and I am using X-plane much more than P3D. Jay
November 7, 20169 yr I never understood why the problem is VAS. For me, the problem is that the sim cannot properly unload the not-used memory. If they solve this, then we don't need any 64 bit version. Unless I'm missing something.. Simulators: Prepar3D v5.4 | X-Plane 12 | DCS World | MSFS 2024 | PC Hardware: Dell U3417W | AMD Ryzen 7 9800 X3D | ASUS TUF 5070 Ti | ASUS TUF B580 Plus Wifi | G.Skill Z5 Neo 64GB 3000Mhz CL30 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB + 970 EVO Plus 1TB + 860 EVO 2TB + 850 EVO 1TB, Western Digital Black Caviar Black 6TB | Corsair RM1000i | Corsair 280 Titan RX | VRM Fan | Fractal Design Define S2 Gunmetal | Flight Controls: Fulcrum One Yoke | Virpil VPC WarBRD Base | Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM Grip, Thrustmaster Warthog+F/A-18C Grip | VIER IM POTT Sidestick CPT Side | Thrustmaster TPR Rudder Pedals | Virtual Fly TQ6+Throttle Quadrant | Sismo B737 Max Gear Lever | Monsterteck Desk Mounts | WINWING EfisL+FCU+MCDU | My fleet catalog: Link
November 7, 20169 yr I never understood why the problem is VAS. For me, the problem is that the sim cannot properly unload the not-used memory. If they solve this, then we don't need any 64 bit version. Unless I'm missing something..That's a VAS problem by definitionJay
November 7, 20169 yr Maybe we should all draw straws, and the one drawing the short straw has to install the hotfix and tell us all what happens. :wink: :LMAO: André
November 8, 20169 yr That's a VAS problem by definition Jay I mean, the x64 bit platform just uses more memory, but the unloading problem may still be there. You don't get an OOM because you have more headroom. If the 32 bit could only keep in memory the necessairy VAS load any time I suppose it would never be more than 4GB, so no OOM. My comment goes to people who only see the x64 P3D as a solution. Simulators: Prepar3D v5.4 | X-Plane 12 | DCS World | MSFS 2024 | PC Hardware: Dell U3417W | AMD Ryzen 7 9800 X3D | ASUS TUF 5070 Ti | ASUS TUF B580 Plus Wifi | G.Skill Z5 Neo 64GB 3000Mhz CL30 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB + 970 EVO Plus 1TB + 860 EVO 2TB + 850 EVO 1TB, Western Digital Black Caviar Black 6TB | Corsair RM1000i | Corsair 280 Titan RX | VRM Fan | Fractal Design Define S2 Gunmetal | Flight Controls: Fulcrum One Yoke | Virpil VPC WarBRD Base | Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM Grip, Thrustmaster Warthog+F/A-18C Grip | VIER IM POTT Sidestick CPT Side | Thrustmaster TPR Rudder Pedals | Virtual Fly TQ6+Throttle Quadrant | Sismo B737 Max Gear Lever | Monsterteck Desk Mounts | WINWING EfisL+FCU+MCDU | My fleet catalog: Link
November 8, 20169 yr I mean, the x64 bit platform just uses more memory, but the unloading problem may still be there. You don't get an OOM because you have more headroom. If the 32 bit could only keep in memory the necessairy VAS load any time I suppose it would never be more than 4GB, so no OOM. My comment goes to people who only see the x64 P3D as a solution. My thinking is pretty much the same as yours. Cheers, Ed Important to notice that for those who use Windows 10 and want to upgrade to P3Dv3.4.14, you'll need to update your Windows with the Anniversary Update, otherwise it'll not work, since P3D3.4.14 will require .NET framework 4.6.2. Cheers, Ed Cheers, Ed MSFS2020 Steam // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers
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