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I've had such a good time with the Aerosoft A3xx.  Anybody care to compare?

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At last.

 

Let's just say this one has got everything right whilst Aerosoft got a lot wrong.

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Lefteris indicated that P3D needed to update a few things to get their A320 to work so I assumed that means another P3D update first before they can release.

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AS didn't get a lot wrong. They've given us six years of Airbus flying with continued improvement and expansions. And cheap. FSL is more in-depth but not everything is right. And expensive. They both serve their purpose and I won't knock either of them.

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Some of you may saw my post saying I won't buy another addon for P3D until we clarify 32 vs 64 bit. 

 

I was joking, you know...

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AS didn't get a lot wrong. They've given us six years of Airbus flying with continued improvement and expansions. And cheap. FSL is more in-depth but not everything is right. And expensive. They both serve their purpose and I won't knock either of them.

 

I'm not knocking it down. Aerosoft does have a lot wrong, it's the truth.

 

- FBW is virtually unexistant.

 

- Engine performance is incorrect. Either overpowered or underpowered. It's not too hard to lose a flight because the aircraft won't climb and eventually crashes after takeoff when near MTOW. Doing the exact same test in FSL, it behaves like the actual plane.

 

- RA keeps calling altitudes without the interval. You can hear in some approaches "1000" like 5 times in under 10 seconds. They have been notified of this a lot of times and completely ignored it.

 

These are just some examples that some friends who fly the actual plane noticed, i don't remember everything.

 

Obviously they're for different markets, cheaper, but that doesn't make it right. Again, i'm not trying to knock it down, just clearing that up.

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If you try the FSLabs bus, you immediately know what's different to the AS bus. The immersion is second to none in the FSLabs bus. Even better than in the PMDG birds. Doesn't get closer to real flying on a desktop sim. This thing is absolutely amazing.

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I am not a real pilot, but FBW seems to work fine in the Aerosoft plane as long as the plane is not in an unusual situation. I never ran into the MTOW problem that you mentioned, and my usual payload settings are not too far below MTOW. I also have never had issues with RA. The only negative thing I can say about this plane is that sometimes the checklist stops working, but that's really a minor issue.

 

The Aerosoft model is designed for normal operations, and as far as I can tell it works quite well there. It is a personal choice whether you want to spend more money for a model that also behaves accurately in exceptional situations. I can see that a real pilot would want this, but I personally am very happy with the Aerosoft model and won't buy the FSL version.

 

Peter

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If you try the FSLabs bus, you immediately know what's different to the AS bus. The immersion is second to none in the FSLabs bus. Even better than in the PMDG birds. Doesn't get closer to real flying on a desktop sim. This thing is absolutely amazing.

Totally agree!! Nothing against AS version at all. But so can't wait for this!!! Like you said, immersion is second to none!!!!

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I've had a stupid amount of fun in the Aerosoft.  Yeah, I was disappointed in some of the stuff that was missing when I first got it but I don't even notice it now.  I think the price was great for what you get...a really decent aircraft with a pretty nice nav system plus recorded ATC for the right phase of flight.  FS2Crew works...GSX works.  It's probably going to sound dumb but I'll miss the recorded ATC which keeps me company when VATSIM isn't on.  It may not be perfect but Aerosoft did us right with their A3xx airplanes.  They really did. 

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The best and most complete Airbus simulation finally comes to P3D! Can't wait for it!

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Have to agree here. FlightSim Labs, have really pulled off something special with that Airbus. The immersion is really amazing! 

 

The soundpack alone is worth the money IMO. The aircraft is living and breathing and you can almost feel it. Try putting yourself in the captains seat, and power the beast up from cold-and-dark - you'll know what I mean.

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I've had such a good time with the Aerosoft A3xx.  Anybody care to compare?

 

They are two different products. If you don't care about realism and want an airbus to fly around in that is reasonably priced then Aerosoft is fine. If you care about realism and you want a much more in depth simulation then FSLabs for more money. The FSLabs airbus is much much better when you compare the two (setting aside price), but if you are satisfied with the aerosoft and don't want to go deeper and deeper into the simulation then maybe it would not be worth the money to you. For what it is there is nothing wrong with the aerosoft product. 

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I will have to learn from 0 to fly this thing in the sim. Can't wait! :)

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They are two different products. If you don't care about realism and want an airbus to fly around in that is reasonably priced then Aerosoft is fine. If you care about realism and you want a much more in depth simulation then FSLabs for more money. The FSLabs airbus is much much better when you compare the two (setting aside price), but if you are satisfied with the aerosoft and don't want to go deeper and deeper into the simulation then maybe it would not be worth the money to you. For what it is there is nothing wrong with the aerosoft product.

You gotta love these type of posts... I guess the AS is just a toy and zero realism, huh...? Okay...

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ohhh yea, i purchased the FSX Version and flying the bus on FSX:SE actualy. 

 

It`s a unbelivabale plane for me on the same height as PMDG Products.  And with the new update Immersion got even deeper. 

 

I hope i have the P3D Fsl A320 under my christmas tree. 

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FSL A320 is the single best add-on aircraft I have ever been flying in home flight simulation.

And I am saying it from the perspective of having actually every quality payware airliner there was for all versions of MFS (including Leonardo Maddog and Majestic Q400 - my favourites so far).

 

Comparison between Aerosoft and FSL airbuses? There is, in my view, no point in doing it.

They are two different products created for different targets, offering different features for (very) different prices. Fair enough.

 

I have made over 50 flights with FSL A320 (nothing else) and cannot stop. It's a highly addictive drug (you have been warned).

I discover new eggs every day. I learn something new every day. And I haven't even started using failures (I'm not ready yet)...

 

A new version came out yesterday, bringing a lot of new cool stuff.

 

My only complaint would be it is very demanding performance-wise (FPS).

But the number of things simulated here does not make it a surprise.

Plus, unlike me, many of you probably have the latest CPUs/GPUs, so it should work fine.

 

I wish all my P3D colleagues (I'm on FSX) happy flying while it's out (soon).

You will be amazed! :smile:

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Some of you may saw my post saying I won't buy another addon for P3D until we clarify 32 vs 64 bit. 

 

I was joking, you know...

 

I think about this as well but you always have to think about time.  It may take until late 2017 to get 64bit P3D and then it will be at least 2 years before all of the addons are converted over (most likely longer) so you are getting use of all of these great addons until 2021 and then you can drop a boatload of cash on the new stuff.

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While I'm excited about the release, VAS numbers that FSX users report scary me to death. Afraid it will be unusable at EDDF/EGLL. Anyway, keep my fingers crossed

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While I'm excited about the release, VAS numbers that FSX users report scary me to death. Afraid it will be unusable at EDDF/EGLL. Anyway, keep my fingers crossed

 

I'm running it in FSX-SE and using AS-2016 with ASCA and FTX global & rex 4 textures. I use default airports so far and have had zero VAS issues with this plane. Now what will happen when I start adding in payware airports is a different story. The way I feel is with an airliner like this I spend very little time looking at the ground, so such things aren't as high as a priority vs if I was flying low and slow the entire time (I'm more concerned about how the weather and clouds look than anything else because that is most of what I see. I am toying with the idea of adding orbx NA LC and vector. . 

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I've had such a good time with the Aerosoft A3xx.  Anybody care to compare?

Hi,

 

Just to have an idea : FsLabs A320=PMDG B737. I feel better to compare like this...

 

Regards,

 

Richard Portier

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I have absolutley no VAS Problems. 

 

using: 

 

FTX Global

FTX Vector

FSL A320

UK2000 EGKK

ASN  SP5

Fly Tampa Athens 

 

i have between 25 - 32 Fps and after landing hat 700 MB VAS left even with 2048 Textures.

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Even better than in the PMDG birds

In what way the fsl 320 is better than the pmdg aircraft

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