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Hello,

has anybody heard something from IRIS Simulations?

 

They completely off any communication since April or May without any explanation.

The realease of P3D v4 was completely uncommented by IRIS so I do wonder what I could do with my IRIS aircraft to make them work there...?

 

Does anybody know something?

many thanks

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I do not think so - Last I checked (last year) they were reorganizing (in biz terms means - potentially closing shop).

I also did not receive the entire collection as my prize at the Flight Angels competition.  

All these companies should release their product for free with source code if they want to close shop - the community will pick up the work

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10 minutes ago, Skywolf said:

I do not think so - Last I checked (last year) they were reorganizing (in biz terms means - potentially closing shop).

I also did not receive the entire collection as my prize at the Flight Angels competition.  

All these companies should release their product for free with source code if they want to close shop - the community will pick up the work

I'd agree with that. Or at least keep it so you can still buy them, perhaps at a reduced price with the caveat that there is no support available. (Hello, RealAir...)

 

Russ

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Don't know but I installed the IRIS A-10 in v4 and it works just fine.  Didn't try out all the features but seems all good. 

There is a good list of military aircraft working v4 over at Simouthouse or whatever its called. 

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I see they are selling all their products at reduced prices. I would like fly the PC9 in V4.

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As I recall this was another example of a small development  team running into unexpected  health and/or personal  issues. They are still in business, but updates to existing products (like their excellent  A-10 Warthog for example) have been very limited.

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I have there PC 24 its not that great of an aircraft but it's enough to keep me busy. I cant manually enter in a flight plan but I use Pro Atc x which does it for me so I guess its ok for now. Just waiting for Aerosoft patiently now.

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I can't support any sim companies which does not have long term plan/vision.  I can not use my hard earned dollars for lack of updates and what not.  To each their own.

It all boils down to Leadership issues.

 

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2 hours ago, Skywolf said:

I can't support any sim companies which does not have long term plan/vision.  I can not use my hard earned dollars for lack of updates and what not.  To each their own.

It all boils down to Leadership issues.

 

I am not sure I understand your attitude in regards to Iris. It sounds like a general blanket macho statement, made in total ignorance of the situation and facts. I am not finding fault here, just stating an opinion. I have done the same thing myself.

In fairness toward Iris, the company is/was basically a one man and one woman show. David Brice and his wife Karen. He did most of the creative work and she did the books. David started out doing freeware as DSB Design. He created several well received aircraft which many people enjoyed flying back in the FS9 and early FSX days.

David later went into payware. He focused mostly on military aircraft and created several aircraft that no one else attempted, the PC9, T-6II A,B &* C models, and PC21 among them. While they may not have the attention to detail and advanced features some might want, in my estimation, they are just a well done as any Carenado product, at less cost.

His T-6II was good enough to be used by members of the USAF and Navy in early training tests of using simulation in pilot training. I know this because I was involved with the volunteer/non-profit organization that was working with the military. 

I am a bit hazy here with details. However, if I recall correctly, his wife Karen had some serious medical issues. I don't know if that is the reason for Iris' going non-communicative? If so, I don't blame the man.

I have done beta testing with several companies, including Iris. I know first hand that most of these companies are one or two permanent people, like RealAir, and the rest are volunteers or contract programmers. Because it can take six months to a year or more to release an aircraft, and programmers are usually paid off the units sold, it is hard for these companies to keep contract programmers around long. Also, some of the programmers own the intellectual property rights of their work. If one leaves, he takes his source code with him.  This is a reason why some older aircraft will not be updated to PD3 V4.

The realization we sim consumers need to keep in mind is that it is the little company that often builds the off the wall unique airplane we love. Big companies like Carenado will only build things that they know will sell well. That is part of your long term plan/vision, that you mentioned. A small one or two person outfit like Iris, RealAir, or Lionheart will take on a project just for the love of the aircraft. 

I think we need the little guys. As such, we need to give them a break or learn to model and produce these add-ons ourselves. 

P.S. Iris aircraft mostly work in V4. I moved the PC-21 over and all of its functions seem to work. David did his gauges using xml code. So, the gauges work in 64 bit, and can be modified by talented individuals. As with any aircraft using TacPac, Iris TacPac aircraft will not work with the 32 bit TacPac add-on in PD3 V4.

 

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I have the battlefield airlifter and pc24 installed in v4 and everything is great.  If you buy through their site rather than a reseller, all of their stuff is available now at half price.  agreed about supporting the small developers.  it has nothing to do with lack of vision, just things get unfortunate sometimes.  If IRIS never do another aircraft, I will still love the ones I have,  If some won't take a chance, they are the ones missing out on some great stuff, not me.

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