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On 6/21/2019 at 9:44 PM, asustech said:

I couldn't get on with all the setting up stuff which you dont have to do in the ifly equivalent

I had the 737 for FSX, and while I don't have the NG, I own PMDG's 777. To me, preparations and flows are the similar in volume in both products.

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I've mentioned this previously but my thoughts are.....

If you have the budget the PMDG version is, as you would expect, a little more polished here and there and has some great features,and if you're only buying one would be the way to go.

If you don't have the budget for the PMDG version are you missing out getting the ifly version? No not at all, it's a very solid aircraft with all the correct system and FMC functions, and does in fact  simulate some functions that PMDG do not.The ifly LNAV and VNAV I find to be very stable  ( disclaimer: I'm not using the latest PMDG version so these things may now be simulated, and I've not used either version of the aircraft for well over 6 months) 

 

I fly all 3 versions of the 747-400, the PMDG version, the ifly version and the real one made by Boeing

Cheers Jon

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787 captain.  

Previously 24 years on 747-400.Technical advisor on PMDG 747 legacy versions QOTS 1 , FS9 and Aerowinx PS1. 

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Great advice coming from a real 747 pilot. Thanks Jon.

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3 hours ago, jon b said:

If you don't have the budget for the PMDG version are you missing out getting the ifly version? No not at all, it's a very solid aircraft with all the correct system and FMC functions, and does in fact  simulate some functions that PMDG do not.The ifly LNAV and VNAV I find to be very stable  ( disclaimer: I'm not using the latest PMDG version so these things may now be simulated, and I've not used either version of the aircraft for well over 6 months) 

Just to clarify, the PMDG does simulate LNAV and VNAV...the way you wrote this lends itself to be interpreted that they somehow are not simulated.  I suspect that you were talking about those previously-mentioned functions that PMDG does not do (what are those, anyway?)

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Yes, I suspect PMDG wouldn’t be where they are now if they’d neglected to simulate LNAV/VNAV 🙂

I cant see how to edit the post otherwise I’d put in a separate paragraph.

I was referring to CMC functions and maintenance pages, these may well be now in the PMDG current version, I’ve not upgraded to the PBR versions of P3D yet so am not on the latest PMDG version.

i must admit I don’t fly the sim versions all that often, busman’s holiday and all that (British phrase) but when I do it’s normally just before a sim check ,like now, so they do get a thorough workout.

787 captain.  

Previously 24 years on 747-400.Technical advisor on PMDG 747 legacy versions QOTS 1 , FS9 and Aerowinx PS1. 

Posted

For those that missed this excellent post from jon b a while back comparing both products have a read. Thanks jon b for sharing your knowledge with this community.

Link

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Thanks Samaritano, for both your comments , and for the link. I knew this had been discussed  previously somewhere.

787 captain.  

Previously 24 years on 747-400.Technical advisor on PMDG 747 legacy versions QOTS 1 , FS9 and Aerowinx PS1. 

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1 hour ago, jon b said:

Thanks Samaritano, for both your comments , and for the link. I knew this had been discussed  previously somewhere.

Just wanted to say thanks for your review in that post Samaritano linked to. That was actually one of the main reasons I went and picked up the iFLY 744 a while back. I would have gone PMDG, but honestly I don't see myself flying it that often to justify the price.

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Thanks Kevin, I’m glad you found it useful. I don’t think you can go wrong whichever version you buy, but  it’s nice to have a choice. If we could get a realistic 747 in x-plane now, then I’d be happy!

Im just preparing to go into the full motion sim for my 6 monthly check, sad to think I’ve only got another 4 sim checks before the fleet is retired. I suspect I’ll fly the desktop sim versions a lot more for pleasure once the real aircraft has gone.

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787 captain.  

Previously 24 years on 747-400.Technical advisor on PMDG 747 legacy versions QOTS 1 , FS9 and Aerowinx PS1. 

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Posted (edited)

the subject  is the Virtual Simulator to fly. Thousands of Virtual Sim Pilot never seat in the real cockpit, not even board in aircrafts. 

However, I'm interested to buy 747 aircraft, and reading forums which one is "better", but actually the question is not which one is better from iFly or PMDG. The question is, what give you the program when you buy it.  

To making decision is, what is the DIFFERENT between these two developer, the i FLY or PMDG, and so fare I still do not know.

I sent out my question on YouTube, even PMDG forum; what package is covering what, between PMDG 747-8 EXPANTION and PMDG 747-4 BASE package? (pls, don't tell me read the product info, coz i did rad it). 

I own the PMDG 737 and I like it because lot more realistic from FS24 aircraft(s).  

Thank you pilots

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the 747-400 package does not give you access to the 748 package. The 748 package has different FMC, also it has FBW system, also it's overhead systems are little different then the 747-400. Also 748 has wider range. And different engines. Also 748 has checklist package showing in the aircraft. That is my foreseeable difference I see between packages. I am fan of the 748, it is one of my favorite models to fly, quite stable and can do 15 hours long haul non stop. Not once I used it on flights like KLAX - VHHH or VHHH - EHAM or KLAX - EDDF.  

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In light of PMDG's recent removal of their P3D products from the market, this discussion has been rendered moot, so I'll close it.

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Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys2 (MSFS/XPlane12-11): AMD 7800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Portable Sys3 (P3Dv4/FSX/DCS): i9-9900K @ 5.0 Ghz, Noctua NH-D15, 32GB 3200/16, EVGA RTX3090, Dell S2417DG 24" GSync
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