2 hours ago, Jim Young said:

Then those who want complexity are going to have to show photos and data that proves your points regarding the speed tape.

That's exactly what I did in their forum. I gave them pictures and verbiage out of the FCOM. The verbiage explains what these speeds mean. Should be easy for them to refer and decide what direction to take if any at all.

2 hours ago, Jim Young said:

I think that is going to be difficult as I am really having a hard time reading those numbers and then comparing them to the exact load on my aircraft and the flap settings.

Not really. So VREF at 30 flaps for a 200,000lb 757-200 is 133. Will be in the FMC also if a person bothers to go through the performance setup. So flaps 15 maneuver is REF at 30 + 20, so that speed would be 153. You would expect to see the F at this speed.

Nothing cosmic or complex about these speeds. They are just a visual indication that you have adequate roll/maneuver capability and act as a reference point for extending/retracting flaps.

You would be surprised at what some developers are simulating in their addons to claim to be most realistic. Majestic has gone far enough to simulate a RAIM check in their Dash 8 FMS. All of my years flying, I have only seen the RAIM check fail once, but they simulated it anyway. It's required to have RAIM before doing any GPS departure, arrival or approach. I have even taught forum users how to calculate optimum flap settings,weights and FLEX on the DC10 and MD80. As boring and useless I feel it is in simulation, these people amazingly want to know.

 

i for one appreciate the help and insight offered by g550flyer and other experts in this forum.  if their inputs improve the models offered by various vendors and best simulate the airplanes we are fascinated with, we'll all be better off.  

there's a market for abacus and virtualcol type addon models, but i'm sure captsim strives to be better than those offerings and would try to improve their products based on polite inputs from its customer base.

PEDRO,

Did not mean to imply anything derogatory towards either Russia or the Ukraine - I was only speculating that perhaps it was a simple language issue in the CS support crew addressing problems, bugs, or complaints with their products (in the past or ongoing?). 

3 hours ago, kdfw__ said:

i for one appreciate the help and insight offered by g550flyer

So do I! Thanks again.

 

6 hours ago, Jim Young said:

Then those who want complexity are going to have to show photos and data that proves your points regarding the speed tape

That is the responsibility of the developer NOT the customer

 

3 hours ago, G550flyer said:

That's exactly what I did in their forum. I gave them pictures and verbiage out of the FCOM. The verbiage explains what these speeds mean. Should be easy for them to refer and decide what direction to take if any at all.

Which section of their forums did you post this in? I don't see it there.

Regards

 

PS to JIM - I never mentioned any RED speed tape - you need to watch the YELLOW tape and it's during flap retraction!

Edited December 29, 20187 yr by TrevorS
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7 minutes ago, TrevorS said:

3 hours ago, G550flyer said:

That's exactly what I did in their forum. I gave them pictures and verbiage out of the FCOM. The verbiage explains what these speeds mean. Should be easy for them to refer and decide what direction to take if any at all.

Which section of their forums did you post this in? I don't see it there.

Sorry - just found it  -  Thank you

9 hours ago, G550flyer said:

Actually, he does have a valid point.  

No one was disputing this. (The last time I visited this topic.)

Thank you for taking the time to comply with the previous request from the CS staff.

Let's see what their reply will be.

Edited December 29, 20187 yr by nolonger

12 hours ago, BrianW said:

Like anything it depends on how it’s used.  Nobody expects the CBT used during a type rating to teach them handling characteristics either.  Even a cockpit poster can and is used as a training device. 

Your earlier comments that indicated to me that P3D could be used for training commercial pilots was a stretch and a poor reason for trying to contravene my earlier comments that the CS757 does not need this data as the aircraft performance is great.  The aircraft flies great and lands with perfection and one of the best commercial products in my hangar.  Now that the issue has been brought before CS, let's see if the "bug" can be fixed.  I have a sneaking suspicion it cannot or will not be fixed as it has little or no value to the overall performance of the product. 

On 12/29/2018 at 4:38 PM, Jim Young said:

I have a sneaking suspicion it cannot or will not be fixed as it has little or no value to the overall performance of the product.

The value of this particular issue again depends on what the individual customer wants. Personally, I'd very much like the speeds to be correct and if they chose not to do anything about it I'd be rather disappointed at that, especially keeping the price tag in mind. After all, they advertise this product to have advanced system simulation and I don't feel like a correct minimum maneuver speed tape is too much to ask for given what they strive to achieve with this product. I tested the new update 1.3 today and I still encounter the same bugs, some more critical than others, that keep bugging me (pun wholeheartedly intended) since initial release nearly a year back.

On 12/28/2018 at 5:49 PM, PWJT8D said:

You can't buy a Ford and demand the quality of a Ferrari.

I didn't buy a Ford, I bought a BOEING 757.

Edited December 31, 20187 yr by Dreamflight767

On 12/28/2018 at 4:52 AM, TrevorS said:

There is a bug in the 757 v1.3 regarding the speedtape displayed on the ADI.

It concerns the yellow/amber tape band which represents the different maneuvering speeds in many different situations. The top of the yellow band represents the MINIMUM flap maneuvering speed but CS are using the NORMAL flap man. speed. There is a big difference between the two speeds. I have been communicating with 757 pilots on PPRUNE forums. The difference can be between 1.6g and 1.8g to allow for a safety margin.

Just a heads up, CS just released update v. 1.3.0.1, change log seems to indicate they've addressed this issue as well as the F and S reversed indications in the ADI, and a few more items.

4 hours ago, jalbino59 said:

Just a heads up, CS just released update v. 1.3.0.1

Thanks for the heads up Jose.  

5 hours ago, jalbino59 said:

Just a heads up, CS just released update v. 1.3.0.1, change log seems to indicate they've addressed this issue as well as the F and S reversed indications in the ADI, and a few more items.

This is interesting news. I don't own the 757 (yet maybe), but these things disappoint me the same way QW787 and TFDi717 do for they lack these somewhat simple, but still important cues for the realism of it.

The 1.301 update is here https://captainsim.net/products/y757/sops/updates/

On 12/29/2018 at 5:38 PM, Jim Young said:

I have a sneaking suspicion it cannot or will not be fixed as it has little or no value to the overall performance of the product. 

Just goes to show!!!!!

Edited January 19, 20197 yr by TrevorS

@TrevorSYes, sometimes I'm wrong with my "sneaking suspicions" but I was honestly happy without this "fix". I apologize for accusing you of making up an issue.  Hopefully it meets everyone's satisfaction.  I updated last night and did not see any differences in performance or handling.

I remember back in the early FSX days, CS released the 757 and it simply was not ready for prime time.  Then they released an update to fix the bugs that caused the aircraft to suddenly dive uncontrollably to the left.  Eventually everything was fix (to my satisfaction) but those were major issues that actually prevented the aircraft from flying.  Those types of issues I did not see in the latest release and the aircraft is a joy to fly.  I'm happy to see they continue to update and hope even more bugs can be found and fixed.