Beauregard

Fast and easy to fly GA Plane

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Hi

I am mostly flying with a cessna 172 on prepar3d V4. Now I would like to purchase a fast GA Plane, which is easy to fly. I do not have the time to study hours manuals, therefore I look for a fast ga plane, which is easy to fly in the evening for half an hour. I am ready to read also good manuals, which really help to understand starting/flying the plane.

Do you have any suggestions of a plane suitable for these requriements?

Thanks!

Beaureard

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A2A Comanche and A2A Bonanza. Don't know what do you mean by "easy" though. Both are considered "complex and high performance" on real life, but not that hard to learn.

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25 minutes ago, vbazillio said:

Carenado Cessna C337 ?

Agree.  Also the Carenado C210.  Both are fast, offer good visibility, and relatively simple.  Both also easy to upgrade later with more sophisticated GPS gauges.

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32 minutes ago, MauB said:

A2A Comanche and A2A Bonanza. Don't know what do you mean by "easy" though. Both are considered "complex and high performance" on real life, but not that hard to learn.

+1 a2a stuff can’t be beaten. And the manuals are an excellent educational read! 

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thanks for your suggestions!

I have the a2a cessna 172. It has indeed a good manual and as I read also from others an excellent implementation of the plane. It was good for me to learn, however for flying just once 30 minutes in the evening, it is too realistic, this is why I am often using the carenado 172rg.

So I also bought recently the King Air GTX90 from carenado. As they advertise and as I read in reviews: Less realistic than a2a, but easier to fly. However, here is the problem: The manual is really poor and as a beginner, it is quite hard to find out, what is needed to operate it. I could start without any problem, but after a few minutes the plane always loses height, I guess because I just started and did not go according the checklist.

 

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I like the Ant Tecnam Sierra.

It's good fun flying (as an easy all rounder), is reasonably quick, very easy to fly with little learning curve, includes an easy to follow manual that's built in and accessable while flying and it supports 3rd party GPS like the F1 GTN 750.

Plus he has a demo to trial with.

https://www.antsairplanes.com/sierralsa.html

And here is a short video of it in P3D v4

Prepar3D v4.4 short joyflight around Sekiu airport USA (11S) in the Ant Tecnam Sierra

Cheers

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A2A is the gold standard for GA aircraft. 

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JustFlight do some good in-house GA stuff; the TB-20 is quick but their version is prone to extreme left roll upon rotation and also very difficult to lose airspeed in. No idea if that's accurate or not as they never answered my support ticket. I believe their Turbo Arrow is easier to handle. Note these aircraft are on sale sporadically.

Like others have said, for quick and cheap GA frills, Carenado or Alabeo work well: M20R, 690B, PA-31T, PA-46, PA-31, PA-23, C90 etc, their Bonanza was included as a default aircraft with older versions of P3D. There's also Wilco's TBM850 although dunno what that is like with it being a turboprop.

I feel you have received bad advice with recommendations for A2A, they are not jump-in and easy to fly for 30mins without prior study. They are great products, but they need time invested. The same goes for Milviz.

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20 minutes ago, ckyliu said:

JustFlight do some good in-house GA stuff....

Yes, they do.

Allow me to recommend the JustFlight Duchess 76... https://secure.simmarket.com/justflight-duchess-model-76-fsx-p3d.phtml  It's about $10 cheaper thru Simmarket than at the JustFlight web store.

Designed from the outset as a low cost trainer for flying clubs and schools, it is extremely stable and forgiving, but it's not "fast by any stretch of the imagination... Cruise speed is around 158 knots, (max of about 195 knots) and stall speed is just 69 knots.

JustFlight has done a real nice job with this, it's perfect for low and slow sightseeing...😎

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I have had the Vertx DA62 since it was launched but have recently dug deeper into learning its systems and operation. It is a great GA plane. You can go deeper with the systems and procedures...or just fire it up and go. It can be as easy or as complex as you'd like..

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1 hour ago, ckyliu said:

 

I feel you have received bad advice with recommendations for A2A, they are not jump-in and easy to fly for 30mins without prior study. They are great products, but they need time invested. The same goes for Milviz.

If you want something that flies a bit  like a real aircraft, then 30 minutes+ is not a great deal of time to learn a bit about it before taking to the skies. 

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How can the A2A C172 be "too realistic"? It is still a sim. Start up P3D, select the plane, switch to cold & dark mode and you get the Cessna into the air in about 5min. Or, if even those 5min are to long, use the config window to have the plane ready for taxi when you jump in, then you have her in the air within 30 seconds. You do not need to do all walkaround stuff, in the worst case something breaks while flying and challenges you a Little bit. Or you simply go to the hangar just before each flight and fix all stuff that is weared.

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Not sure if it falls into the GA category (excuse my newb ignorance), but i love flying the Twin Otter by Aerosoft. Really fun to fly and has some really nice repaints too.

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How are you getting along with the King Air?  - I too was going to suggest the Cessna 337, but I'm a little late to the party.. :) 

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38 minutes ago, stripealipe said:

Not sure if it falls into the GA category (excuse my newb ignorance), but i love flying the Twin Otter by Aerosoft. Really fun to fly and has some really nice repaints too.

GA is generally anything that isn't flown commercially or military/government.  The Twotter was/is mostly if not entirely flown for-hire, so it wouldn't usually be GA.

OP, I, too, would recommend the Vertx DA-62. If you're not interested in following proper procedures, you can go from cold and dark to in the air inside of 5 minutes, including taxi time. If at some point you want to go deeper, you can. It's decently fast for a piston twin, and it's absolutely gorgeous. It has very few weaknesses, and most of them are in the advanced/very advanced realm that you wouldn't be interested in anyway.

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RealAir Lancair V2 if you could buy it.

Cheers

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31 minutes ago, bean_sprout said:

RealAir Lancair V2 if you could buy it.

Cheers

 

Yep one of the best add-ons...likely not for sale anymore though

I'd recommend a Carenado add-on to just get in and go.  Try the Mooney Ovation.  It's pretty fast and will support GTN 750.  Otherwise if you're willing to spend a little time get the A2A Bonanza

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With the A2A GA fleet you can always disable "accu-sim" on the menu and add to that the "auto-start" function. So it could be get in and go.
But if by "easy" you mean less or close to none complexity simulation, Carenado is the way to go for sure.

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Two nice twins are the Alabeo Seminole and the C421..

The Seminole is a light twin trainer, the C421 a corporate biz-twin piston.

The GTN 750 would be a very welcome addition to either or both :smile:

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I prefer the RealAir Duke Version 2...not the turbine (although I like this plane too).  I use the Duke as my default plane and love the movement of the cockpit when starting it (very realistic shake), and I also love the plane's handling.  Faster and still very controllable.

Stan

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4 hours ago, spilok said:

I prefer the RealAir Duke Version 2...not the turbine (although I like this plane too).  I use the Duke as my default plane and love the movement of the cockpit when starting it (very realistic shake), and I also love the plane's handling.  Faster and still very controllable.

Stan

But no longer available for sale, as best I know.. :blush:

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dear all, thanks for your many suggestions and ideas! that's great, I will checkout the planes you recommend

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