V4.5 : what has happened to Locked framerate ?

[LecLightning56 33]

33 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said:

CorePrio seems to be for AMD processors only. Is that right? Or is there more than one website? https://bitsum.com/portfolio/coreprio/?

Pete

 

Respect indeed with your contribution, Pete, from one of the greats. I can only comment on my own discussions with the developer of CorePrio itself that the utility was recommended to me by him and he was cognisant that I had a rather dated Intel processor, not an AMD.

It is good that things are coming to light, particularly the "snakeoil" trick described above which the Prepar3D team may well advise against, but I can only speak from my own personal experience of the use of CorePrio that it appears to operate dynamically on the cores, rather than to set an affinity in concrete or indeed it is not intended to be used the same way that the "snakeoil" effect has been described. It is purely experimental on my part and I am happy with the results, but I am also more than acutely aware of violating how Prepar3D should most efficiently go about task handling and ensuring that nothing else is compromised in the process. 

But, yes you are correct it is mainly directed at AMD processors and it may just be fortuitous that for some, perhaps, older generation Intel processors (mine is an old i7 875K, I am not made of money) it may have something to offer.

Edited May 16, 2019 by LecLightning56

[Nyxx 6,993]

Sorry, I thought the topic was about FPS and 4.5 and core 0 getting max out. what difference does night make? when the topic is about core 0 and maxing out.

Edited May 16, 2019 by Nyxx

[virtualstuff 758]

2 hours ago, pracines said:

You must not fly at night much.😉

4.4 and 4.5 at night is quite a big difference.

Thanks for sharing appreciated and have seen it 😉 (as for the night well there is still a very long way to go), but my comment was related to a quote which says enough  😉

Edited May 16, 2019 by awf

[Bert Pieke 7,585]

1 hour ago, Pete Dowson said:

CorePrio seems to be for AMD processors only. Is that right? Or is there more than one website? https://bitsum.com/portfolio/coreprio/?

Pete

 

This is specifically for AMD processors, but the underlying issue (which is poorly understood) may well apply to Intel processors also.. Snake Oil.. Who knows..

[FLNG 6]

I'm hoping when the dust is settled someone will post a "P3D 4.5 Tweaks for Dummies" article.

I'm still on 4.3.  thought I had left all this when I left FSX.

 

thanx for all the effort

 

Jeff

[Wise87 1,281]

After page 2 I pretty much lost what the topic was about. For us simple folks, is there a problem or not? 

[pracines 823]

1 hour ago, Nyxx said:

Sorry, I thought the topic was about FPS and 4.5 and core 0 getting max out. what difference does night make? when the topic is about core 0 and maxing out.

II thought this was about 4.5 as well with maybe some comparisons about 4.5 and 4.4 relating to the topic , but some just came on here to say they stuck with 4.4 and that's all they said. 

I simply pointed out how night flying is a big plus in 4.5, figuring they had no idea (just trying to help).

The issue in this topic is not a 4.5 showstopper, so no sense in bashing 4.5, or one must ask themselves how did they get to 4.4, why not stick with 4.0-4.3?🧐

[virtualstuff 758]

2 minutes ago, pracines said:

 but some just came on here to say they stuck with 4.4 and that's all they said. 

I simply pointed out how night flying is a big plus in 4.5, figuring they had no idea (just trying to help).

The issue in this topic is not a 4.5 showstopper, so no sense in bashing 4.5, or one must ask themselves how did they get to 4.4, why not stick with 4.0-4.3?🧐

Don't take things out of context I was replying at least on topic with a quote, reread carefully... (I understand that you addressed multiple users, however you quoted me;-))

You have gone of topic, it was about " V4.5 : what has happened to Locked frame rate ?"and the help in my case isn't needed, have done my homework floating around here since 2002 🤣

[Nyxx 6,993]

This topic is about problems with locked FPS and core 0 maxing out.

It looks like there is a problem. Pointing out 4.5 is nice at night is off topic my post was to report a test to see if the problem was there in 4.4.

Im staying with 4.4 until it’s all sorted and you point about why not stay with v4.0 is silly 4.4 came with PBR and no big problems that needed a hotfix, 4.5 comes with better loading of Orbx uk photo real and better looking night scenes. If you don’t run Orbx true earth or fly at night and given what this topic is really about the problems with core  0.

It might be wise to hold off before jumping to soon. Am not bashing 4.5 am being watchful with the problems, we have had one hotfix we have never had before and we might need another. 

So better to look before you leap.

Edited May 16, 2019 by Nyxx

[pmb 5,137]

9 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

It might be wise to hold off before jumping to soon. Am not bashing 4.5 am being watchful with the problems, we have had one hotfix we have never had before and we might need another. 

We had two patch levels of the last version 3 (3.4.18.19475, and 3.4.22.19868, after the initial release 3.4.9.18400), so I can well imagine LM to publish another hotfix IF there is indeed an issue. I can imagine them to want a stable 4.5 for their commerical customers before juming into the 5.x cycle.

This would underline the importance to report issues directly to them.

Kind regards, Michael

[Pete Dowson 558]

2 hours ago, LecLightning56 said:

I can only speak from my own personal experience of the use of CorePrio that it appears to operate dynamically on the cores

Yes, and from the description this is because the threadripper series of AMD processors apparently have facilities for assisting with this. that's why I couldn't imagine it working properly without.

1 hour ago, Bert Pieke said:

This is specifically for AMD processors, but the underlying issue (which is poorly understood) may well apply to Intel processors also.. Snake Oil.. Who knows..

Well, i'll try it, but the description of how it works tells me it isn't going to do exactly what we might think it is doing on Intel.

I'll report back.

Pete

 

[Nyxx 6,993]

15 minutes ago, pmb said:

I can imagine them to want a stable 4.5 for their commerical customers before juming into the 5.x cycle.

This would underline the importance to report issues directly to them.

Kind regards, Michael

Agree did they also say that the gap in time to v5 will be larger than before?

[F737MAX 5,604]

1 hour ago, Nyxx said:

Agree did they also say that the gap in time to v5 will be larger than before?

Yes.

Quote

Prepar3D v4 still has a lot of life left in it and it will likely be the longest active release we have done.

Quote from Adam Breed at LM in the November 2018 exclusive interview with FSElite.
 

[G-RFRY 1,712]

Is suspect and hope we will find out more in a few weeks at the Orlando show, from LM as they are attending.

[gboz 157]

6 hours ago, GSalden said:

That is a “snakeoil” trick that confuses the Task Manager so it is not accurate anymore...

Have to disagree with that Gerard. Along with the drop in first core usage I see a drop in first core temperature as well, so definitly something real going on.

Are you still getting 100% first core usage with P3D paused?

gb.