Actually Aerosoft fixed their "wrong font" issue in their bus a few months/versions back....but of course the bus seen in the video could have been lifted from an older version...

As for me, I remember the hype with MS Flight! and am still pretty skeptical about this.  How do we know this won't be just a "lite" game with streamed scenery off Azure?  Basically the Google Earth flight sim, but with some aircraft models?  Of course then again, how do we know it's NOT?  ha ha.   We need a 007 to get us some "research".

10 minutes ago, Mace said:

Actually Aerosoft fixed their "wrong font" issue in their bus a few months/versions back....but of course the bus seen in the video could have been lifted from an older version...

 As for me, I remember the hype with MS Flight! and am still pretty skeptical about this.  How do we know this won't be just a "lite" game with streamed scenery off Azure?  Basically the Google Earth flight sim, but with some aircraft models?  Of course then again, how do we know it's NOT?  ha ha.   We need a 007 to get us some "research".

We don't know anything for sure, but it will be more than just Google Earth simulator + Aircraft Models. It will have a flight planer and (real?!) weather, also at least some highly detailed airports (maybe all the other will be less detailed and based on some database). 

They are advertising it as their Next Gen Flight Simulator, bringing back their old brand, so I doubt they would develop something (for 6 years as some people are saying) less complex than FSX.

1 hour ago, Anders Bermann said:

Well, I guess that's there's nothing you can say, which will result in 'the believers' accepting something else...

Why would you want anyone to abandon their opinion and instead 'accept' yours or anything else? Last time I checked people were still entitled to their own opinion and make of the video and the scarce information what they want/think is plausible. If you think AS aren't involved and it's going to be a game rather than an actual sim as we know it that's fine, but please don't try to force your own opinion on others. They can speculate and get excited all they want. Why do we so often have to make everything about who's right and who's wrong?

4 hours ago, ca_metal said:

They are advertising it as their Next Gen Flight Simulator, bringing back their old brand, so I doubt they would develop something (for 6 years as some people are saying) less complex than FSX.

I doubt it too, once it becomes fully baked.  However, the tree models shown are less complex than FSX.

9 hours ago, Mace said:

Actually Aerosoft fixed their "wrong font" issue in their bus a few months/versions back....but of course the bus seen in the video could have been lifted from an older version...

As for me, I remember the hype with MS Flight! and am still pretty skeptical about this.  How do we know this won't be just a "lite" game with streamed scenery off Azure?  Basically the Google Earth flight sim, but with some aircraft models?  Of course then again, how do we know it's NOT?  ha ha.   We need a 007 to get us some "research".

It's highly unlikely for several reasons. One, their press release speaks specifically to meeting community demands and working with industry partners. They confirm it's a full earth simulator, that they'll be flight planning, and that authenticity is a goal.

But even if we assume that's all PR fluff, lite simulators just operating as scenery stream showcases don't need AI traffic, redone GPS systems, FMCs, weather engines, ATC (you can hear it on one clip), the entire earth modeled, sloping runways, etc.

There's enough in that new trailer that pretty strongly points to this being at least as high fidelity as FSX. I'm also skeptical that MS would put the Flight Simulator name on anything that wasn't a true sequel. That brand holds a serious level of sacredness in Microsoft's history. There's a reason they dubbed the limited in scope Flight something different.

Edited June 14, 20196 yr by bonchie

On 6/12/2019 at 12:52 PM, simbol said:

I find this so funny.

Trust me when I say, no developers in the flying sim community has or had any idea of this coming out.

And at this stage we are still unclear if MS will or not provide some sort of SDK to allow us to develop for this simulator, even if they do, we don't even know how deep or not the SDK could be.

Now think about, the product is still under development, it means even if they wish to provide some sort of SDK it cannot be completed and available to anybody to develop for this.

Therefore, Mathis statement is quite accurate, there is nothing to say about it as nobody has a clue about at this stage. You guys are reading too much into it.

Simbol.

So.... NOW we know.

It was Fsreborn that developed MSFS and then sold it to MS all ready for them to apply the final spit and polish. 

Great work, Sibmol! That whole lights / AI thing was a masterful piece of misdirection. None of us ever suspected that you were doing this. Sure had me fooled.

22 minutes ago, MDFlier said:

So.... NOW we know.

It was Fsreborn that developed MSFS and then sold it to MS all ready for them to apply the final spit and polish. 

Great work, Sibmol! That whole lights / AI thing was a masterful piece of misdirection. None of us ever suspected that you were doing this. Sure had me fooled.

Lol, dear God haha.

S.

9 hours ago, threegreen said:

Why would you want anyone to abandon their opinion and instead 'accept' yours or anything else? Last time I checked people were still entitled to their own opinion and make of the video and the scarce information what they want/think is plausible. If you think AS aren't involved and it's going to be a game rather than an actual sim as we know it that's fine, but please don't try to force your own opinion on others. They can speculate and get excited all they want. Why do we so often have to make everything about who's right and who's wrong?

Okay - before you get all vigilante - please try to understand the following:

First of all: I'm NOT trying to FORCE my own opinion upon anyone! Please don't read your own judgmental assumptions into everything!

Second: I'm more than HAPPY, that people in here are showing their support and (for the lack of a better word) fanaticism about an upcoming project.

Third: You can believe, think or say whatever you want!!! The only thing, I pointed out, was the tendency in here, to complete ignore (the very little) facts we have and just blindly jump on the hype-train and believe and spread the (unsubstantiated and baseless) rumors and wishes as the only and allowed truth in here. It's extreme - and I've witnessed it so many times before, when a new addon/sim is announced. People are just getting all worked up over, how amazing it is. How ground-breaking it is and how it's completely going to re-define the whole genre and everything just stops in it's tracks... It's both hilarious - and might I add - a little sad.

Fourth: Please people. Deal with the facts in here... Of course it's okay to dream and express ones wishes and thoughts upon the sim. But please don't express your wishes as included facts, "that definitely must be included - or definitely IS included!". As I said: No one knows... This could be the next-gen Flight-Sim that everyone's been dreaming/asking/ranting/wishing for... but it could just as well, be some kind of extended Google Earth Simulator, which are catered towards a more gamer oriented crowd... 

Again, I reiterate - know-one knows... ! 

It seems a lot of people are making too much stew out of one oyster.  Including the nay-sayers.

I see a lot of cautious optimism.  I don't see any fanaticism.  There is speculation.  This is to be expected.  

Can we all agree that the visuals shown in the trailer are better than anything we've seen in a flight sim to date?  

Hook

38 minutes ago, LHookins said:

It seems a lot of people are making too much stew out of one oyster.  Including the nay-sayers.

I see a lot of cautious optimism.  I don't see any fanaticism.  There is speculation.  This is to be expected.  

Can we all agree that the visuals shown in the trailer are better than anything we've seen in a flight sim to date?  

Hook

What is XP ? What is P3D ?

There is only MS Flight Simulator 😎

Sometimes the product you see at the forefront is not necessary the main aim or objective of the company in question.

Microsoft have new tech to show off...high speed data streaming for one...so what better way to promote that.

 A multimillion pound project is not going to be decided by a group of 2000 over 50s😋

4 hours ago, GSalden said:

What is XP ? What is P3D ?

There is only MS Flight Simulator 😎

Everyone knows there can be only one....

Yes, FS2004 rocks!

Works on any PC, Plenty of scenery, planes, etc, still very much supported, does not need to be tweaked to work well, has sloping runways & ramps, can have multiple install, etc.

@Wobbie FS2004 has sloping runways? I think not. I mean on that basis FSX does, using the same hacks but they're not true runways to the simulator, look at Courchevel scenery,

12 minutes ago, ckyliu said:

@Wobbie FS2004 has sloping runways? I think not. I mean on that basis FSX does, using the same hacks but they're not true runways to the simulator, look at Courchevel scenery,

I think yes. Proper sloping runways, circular as well, & ramps within scenery, free from Garry Smith's Ford Project.. 

I beta tested them all.