Love the new one, far better than the old one, and that's my opinion, one of which I am entitled to. The end.

I like it but I think the flag in the tail could be smaller and look like it is waving in the wind. 

Canada's looks similar so they are just copying Canada again 😅

Edited June 21, 20196 yr by Matthew Kane

Meh...more waste of taxpayer dollars.

Trying to remain non-political here, but I think this is relevant. It's been suggested that the current occupant doesn't like the design because it's associated with JFK, a democrat, and the predominant color is blue, which is currently associated with that political party.

However, that association is more recent than when the color scheme was decided. When color TV started to replace black and white TV, news stations used blue and red randomly to describe the two parties on maps during election season. Sometimes Republicans were shown as blue on the map. The convention of red for Republicans and blue for Democrats wasn't formalized until somewhere in the late 70's or early 80's.

With things being a sensitive as they are these days, I suppose there might be an argument for a more neutral color scheme with equal blue and red representation.

Personally, I think that's nuts. It should keep the original and iconic color scheme. You can't mistake this livery for anything else in the world, and it should remain this way.

1 hour ago, Matthew Kane said:

Canada's looks similar so they are just copying Canada again 😅

But not doing as good a job.  The Canadian design curves the border between the underside and the white upper works - and mirrors the curve on the tail - all of which lightens the look and adds a sense of motion.

So I'll stand on guard for thee... 😎

Also - thinking a little more about polished metal aircraft - as much as I like the look, it wouldn't work for a presidential aircraft because people would take it as purely military.  Not that military aircraft are polished metal anymore, but people still associate bare metal with the Air Force.  The presidential aircraft goes on a lot of "soft power" missions, so something that bridges civilian and military is called for.  Which means paint.

Edited June 21, 20196 yr by Alan_A

25 minutes ago, Alan_A said:

Also - thinking a little more about polished metal aircraft - as much as I like the look, it wouldn't work for a presidential aircraft because people would take it as purely military.  Not that military aircraft are polished metal anymore, but people still associate bare metal with the Air Force.  The presidential aircraft goes on a lot of "soft power" missions, so something that bridges civilian and military is called for.  Which means paint.

A good point, but the current paint scheme includes some polished metal: https://images.app.goo.gl/tJukXJzYE3osWgbJ6

It's a nice balance between the painted surfaces and bare.  Of course, on a 747 that's a lot of real estate to polish... so, me no volunteer!

Greg

1 hour ago, lownslo said:

the current paint scheme includes some polished metal

It does - but not enough to dominate.

Just enough to create a lot of work for some maintainers in the 89th Airlift Wing...

 

It is also a copy of the USA3000 paint scheme.

@KevinAu - you're right, I totally missed that.

 

@KevinAu Well I was only 10 years out, I did say it looked like a mid-90s airline, I should've said mid-00s.

Lemme try this again with less acrimony.

The old design is iconic and graceful. This new one is ugly.

If you look closely at one of the proposed designs, you will see that it is the same as the President has on his personal 757, except upside down.

A new design is all it is and it is NOT permanent.  All presidents are allowed to have the design they want.  The Air Force will have it repainted by the military contractor, Boeing or the contractor who gives the best price.  I have no problem with any designs.  I like the current one but obviously we are in the 21st Century and nearing the 22d and the USA is wealthier than in the early 60's.  It would be "pocket-change" for the quick design change.  The next president can change it back or come up with his/her own design.  Simple as all that.

Best regards,

Jim

To clarify, the new paint scheme is slated to be applied to the two new 747-8's that the Air Force bought last year and to be delivered in 2024.

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2018/07/18/boeing-gets-air-force-one-contract-and-next-gen-air-force-ones-to-get-a-new-paint-job/

Greg

1 hour ago, Jim Young said:

A new design is all it is and it is NOT permanent.  All presidents are allowed to have the design they want. 

Of course.  I don't think anyone is suggesting otherwise.  We're just talking about whether we like the design or not, which is a matter of taste - it has nothing to do with the president's right to choose it, or any other for that matter.