44 minutes ago, HughesMDflyer4 said:

Expecting too many small details to be just right will only lead to disappointment

To my mind, the omission of sloped runways would mean the FS2020 team's mantra of "We are making Microsoft Flight Simulator. Emphasis on the word SIMULATOR"  sound like hollow "sales-speak".

I really hope this is not the case!

Aren't there any MS FS2020 employees lurking in this forum?

Can't you just tell us whether or not FS2020 supports sloping runways for generic airports?

After all you say "We genuinely want to work closely with the community in the development of this title". How about a little insider info?

1 hour ago, MatthewS said:

To my mind, the omission of sloped runways would mean the FS2020 team's mantra of "We are making Microsoft Flight Simulator. Emphasis on the word SIMULATOR"  sound like hollow "sales-speak".

Matt,

I don't think the employees scouting these forums for concepts to submit to the team are authorized to oblige you. However, I have a feeling we'll get the answers you seek in Octobers "WORLD" Discovery. If they're showing us videos and pictures of the world, airports can be expected to be included.

This may be a case of "patience is virtue."

3 hours ago, HughesMDflyer4 said:

 

Do not caricature the issue. Sales won't be doomed but may be somewhat hurt. Also, somebody who has a different opinion than yours might not be ridiculous...   

The FSX and FS20 releases take place in a very different environment.

FSX had no real competition then and it was an obvious improvement over FS2004.  

FS20 comes at a time when the FS world has an excellent simulator, P3D, which is enhanced by enormous improvements on the scenery and aircraft front and the competition outside has grown more vigourous  and convincing (XP, AF2). Having just fantastic visuals will help but honestly the visuals aren't bad today.  "Small details" can make the difference knowing that sloped runways aren't a small detail. The FS franchise is in dire need of a revamping of its terrain engine (this is what having sloped runways means) and I hope to see that in FS20. Will we? I think so but it is still unclear.

5 minutes ago, Flamingpie said:

OT

Anyone who is into bush flying should look at Deadstick, not MSFS. 

/OT

Only if you don't mind flying in a fictional setting (terrain, airfields, navaids etc.) without worldwide coverage, even if it might be based on real world areas.

Don't get me wrong, I think Deadstick has huge potential and I'll definitely get it on release day, but I also want to fly bush/VFR all around the globe using real world fields, navaids maps etc.

Edited August 22, 20196 yr by Airboeing

What is FS20? 

I know FSX, but FX20 or FSXX?? 

Should it not be FSMMXX? 

 

22 minutes ago, domkle said:

Do not caricature the issue. Sales won't be doomed but may be somewhat hurt. Also, somebody who has a different opinion than yours might not be ridiculous...   

The FSX and FS20 releases take place in a very different environment.

FSX had no real competition then and it was an obvious improvement over FS2004.  

FS20 comes at a time when the FS world has an excellent simulator, P3D, which is enhanced by enormous improvements on the scenery and aircraft front and the competition outside has grown more vigourous  and convincing (XP, AF2). Having just fantastic visuals will help but honestly the visuals aren't bad today.  "Small details" can make the difference knowing that sloped runways aren't a small detail. The FS franchise is in dire need of a revamping of its terrain engine (this is what having sloped runways means) and I hope to see that in FS20. Will we? I think so but it is still unclear.

Small details DO make a difference.. So call the sim its proper name, as Microsoft does, not your fictional name of FS20.. Yet another small detail that should count. 

5 hours ago, MatthewS said:

Well I mostly fly PMDG and I can tell you if FS2020 doesn't have sloped runways I don't see the point in buying it because I was really looking forward to the variety that sloped runways adds to generic airports.   Of course FS2020 might be good for VFR and bush flying but without sloped runways it really loses a lot of the appeal (especially for bush flying).

Dirt runways in the bush are not really a problem. Believe me I have made some. The issue is with paved runways.

14 minutes ago, Flamingpie said:

OT

Anyone who is into bush flying should look at Deadstick, not MSFS. 

/OT

Look at Deadstick maybe but I hope that FS20 will be as good as P3D is today and even better. DS is very limited in a fictional geographical perimeter. I want to fly the bush in Tanzania, Alaska, Sulawesi or Papua and DS does not offer that.

6 hours ago, Greazer said:

If Microsoft fail on this item it will only be good for Long haul Airliners.   That will spell Doom for FS2020 sales.   Just being realistic.  

Better tell LM then P3D is doomed then.

Microsoft may include sloped runways and get rid of AI in the sim, and let third party devs tackle that one.

Edited August 22, 20196 yr by rjfry

2 hours ago, rjfry said:

Better tell LM then P3D is doomed then.

Microsoft may include sloped runways and get rid of AI in the sim, and let third party devs tackle that one.

I think Microsoft is experienced enough to implement both things...

Edited August 22, 20196 yr by aleex

Please post a picture of KCRW in P3d or FSX. I can only imagine how bad it looks flat. Undulating runways and airports is Not optional or a "minor detail". Once you have that, you never want to Lose that.

11 hours ago, Greazer said:

If Microsoft fail on this item it will only be good for Long haul Airliners.   That will spell Doom for FS2020 sales.   Just being realistic.  

You're serious? Undulating runways are not going to make or break a sim lol

11 hours ago, MatthewS said:

Well I mostly fly PMDG

So you either fly just the DC-6 or you mostly don't fly in a sim which has sloping runways, even though they are such a vitally important feature to you. Which is it?

11 hours ago, MatthewS said:

I'm not buying FS2020 if they fail to implement sloping runways. XP has had them for donkeys years.

Are you saying that if the new sim has (lets speculate here, as that's what we're doing about sloping runways) the best graphics, the best mesh, the best weather, the best ATC, the best flight model and the best AI (air and land), you still wouldn't buy it because it didn't have sloping runways? If so, then it's difficult to take you seriously.

Edited August 22, 20196 yr by vortex681

8 minutes ago, Krakin said:

You're serious? Undulating runways are not going to make or break a sim lol

It's that Serious. Like going for cathode Ray tube to 4k super high definition.

1 hour ago, Greazer said:

It's that Serious. Like going for cathode Ray tube to 4k super high definition.

Maybe to people like us who would be on a forum like this but for the wider audience this is going to attract, it ain't that deep. Definitely not enough to spell the doom of anything.