September 29, 20196 yr I hope this proves fruitful. The 'Sardine Can Era' needs to go (over packing people on planes)... Frontier and Spirit should be on notice. https://www.foxbusiness.com/industrials/faa-testing-airplane-seats-close-evacuation Edited September 29, 20196 yr by Dillon FS2020 Alienware Aurora R11 10th Gen Intel Core i7 10700F - Windows 11 Home 32GB Ram NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super OC 16GB - Pimax Crystal Light VR
September 29, 20196 yr Great. I'm 6'4" and it is very uncomfortable for me to remain confined to one of these small rat cage sized seat areas on virtually any trip. The "pack as many as you can get in" era needs to go bye bye. Let the ticket prices go up. We need comfort and safety as primary objectives. Thank you. Rick $Silver Donor EAA 1317610 I7-7700K @ 4.5ghz, MSI Z270 Gaming MB, 32gb 3200, Geforce RTX2080 Super O/C, 28" Samsung 4k Monitor, Various SSD, HD, and peripherals
September 29, 20196 yr Oh yes. I saw the prototypes where passengers are almost standing Time to bring sanity back for trips.
September 29, 20196 yr There are other issues they should be looking at as well, in particular whether the increasing numbers of "super-size me" passengers would impede evacuation via the overwing emergency exit hatches, for example. Many cities are now having to buy "bariatric" ambulances for their EMS services, with extra-wide gurneys, air suspensions, heavy-duty ramps, and a winch to pull a gurney with a 400-600+ lb patient on board the rig. It wouldn't be any kind of laughing matter to find yourself in the line to the overwing exits in a ditching or gear-up landing scenario behind a 450 lb passenger with a double-wide derriere that would give the term "plug hatch" a whole new meaning... So for safety, and not just comfort issues, the industry should adopt an adaptation of the OJ Simpson defense: "if yer butt don't fit, you must not sit..." Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
September 29, 20196 yr I would also ban passengers being allowed to recline their seats without getting permission from the person sitting behind them. I just thought that I would throw that one in the pot whilst we are here. Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
September 29, 20196 yr 8 minutes ago, Christopher Low said: I would also ban passengers being allowed to recline their seats without getting permission from the person sitting behind them. I just thought that I would throw that one in the pot whilst we are here. amen! Only time I've almost had a skirmish on a flight and wasn't for me but the poor tall guy next to me. Guy ahead threw his seat back and almost crush the poor fellows legs! I let the guy know what I thought of that!
September 29, 20196 yr Brings back memories with a flight i was on. The guy in front of me kept squirming around in his seat. I almost had breakfast,and coffee on my lap.Funny now , not back then lol!!!! Edited September 29, 20196 yr by Paul Deluca
September 29, 20196 yr 5 hours ago, w6kd said: So for safety, and not just comfort issues, the industry should adopt an adaptation of the OJ Simpson defense: "if yer butt don't fit, you must not sit..." I was sitting at the 2L door of a 747 thoroughly enjoying the space while my dad in the row behind me was squeezed in between the airframe and an XXL pax. No, that guy did not fit into this seat and it was a struggle for him to even walk the aisle and get into the row. Apart from comfort issues, in case of an emergency evacuation my dad would basically have been trapped while waiting for the guy to try and get out.
September 29, 20196 yr Moderator The worst for me is when you have little kids sitting behind you and they keep kicking the back of your seat. I’ve had this happen quite a few times on domestic flights that I’ve taken a coach seat. Funny how the parents a lot of times don’t have the idea to tell their kids to settle down and not kick the seat in front of them. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
September 30, 20196 yr ...There should also be storage space at the rear of the seat for your DVT stockings....now that long haul is becoming longer.... regards Bill i7-3770K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 970 4GB, Win 7 64bit, LG 38GL950G, CH Yoke/Pedals, T.16000M, GenX UK, UK2000 EGGP & EGCC, AeroSoft Gibraltar, FSC 9.5, FSL A320X, 737NGX A318/A319/A320/A321, A2A Cherokee/JF Hawk T1/Dino's EF2000, Iris Grob Tutor
September 30, 20196 yr Maybe they need a few “inappropriate touching” lawsuits to get their full attention............ Intel 10700K @ 5.1Ghz, Asus Hero Maximus motherboard, Noctua NH-U12A cooler, Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB 3200 MHz RAM, RTX 2060 Super GPU, Cooler Master HAF 932 Tower, Thermaltake 1000W Toughpower PSU, Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit, 100TB of disk storage. Klaatu barada nickto.
September 30, 20196 yr I cannot really add anything more to this discussion apart from my wholehearted agreement! Mark Robinson Part-time Ferroequinologist Author of FLIGHT: A near-future short story (ebook available on amazon) I made the baby cry - A2A Simulations L-049 Constellation Sky Simulations MD-11 V2.2 Pilot. The best "lite" MD-11 money can buy (well, it's not freeware!)
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