18 minutes ago, bashope said:

in the facebook group

Which group is that, if I may ask?

Microsoft did say that their plan is to eventually have everyone who signed up to be involved in at least one of the technical alphas.

The chances of that being the very first one is unlikely I guess, although we all want it to be :P.

2 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

How are they going to select the genuine testers from the time wasters? You can bet that quite a few people who "signed up" to the alpha tests are only interested in getting their hands on early versions of the simulator, and don't intend to do any testing of any kind. I doubt that Microsoft's Azure AI is advanced enough for a task like this. Maybe they have Skynet and a squad of terminators to sort the wheat from the chaff?

It isn't something that needs to be done before tbh.

In my experience on other games, we had regular checks regarding how much feedback we were bringing, how present were we, how often we showed up if there were organized testing sessions etc etc. And those who did not fit on those requirements were kicked out.
It really depends on how they have organized it, how much of an alpha it is etc etc

This is the most meaningless thread I've ever read

3 hours ago, Flamingpie said:

I do find it amazing that after 5 days and with only 2 more to go NO ONE here has posted 'I am in!' yet...! And not only here but absolutely nowhere. I find that odd. If after the 24th we still won't get 'I am in' posts (anywhere) I think we may conclude the NDA indeed forbids to even talk about that... because I can't imagine MS only inviting people who don't visit (flight sim) forums. 😉

"I do find it amazing that after 5 days and with only 2 more to go NO ONE here has posted 'I am in!' yet...!"

Can you imagine the amount of response that individual would get for being DUMB enough to let it be known!  

3 hours ago, Flamingpie said:

I do find it amazing that after 5 days and with only 2 more to go NO ONE here has posted 'I am in!' yet...! And not only here but absolutely nowhere. I find that odd. If after the 24th we still won't get 'I am in' posts (anywhere) I think we may conclude the NDA indeed forbids to even talk about that... because I can't imagine MS only inviting people who don't visit (flight sim) forums. 😉

I posted the NDA from the day sign ups started several posts above. You can take a read for yourself. I strongly believe no testers have been invited yet, and probably won't be until the 23rd/24th.

 

1 hour ago, bashope said:

Quite a few people have "hinted" at getting the email in the facebook group.

I would take those posts with a huge grain of salt. There's lots of trolls and attention seekers in these groups (at least in the decently large MSFS group I'm in).

Hopefully MS has safe guards from pirates getting the beta and releasing it online.

1 hour ago, Pitbull2504 said:

This is the most meaningless thread I've ever read

Competition can be stiff for this title at times around here..  lol

It’s normal to involve external people in alphas? Or it’s something that it’s usually made in the betas? 

 

 

1 hour ago, YVRDXBLHR said:

Hopefully MS has safe guards from pirates getting the beta and releasing it online.

Yeah, legal action for example. Another thing such testing bring is a more or less hidden text in every game view with your nickname or email, or anyway something which can be used to identify leaked screenshots/videos.

44 minutes ago, aleex said:

It’s normal to involve external people in alphas? Or it’s something that it’s usually made in the betas? 

 

 

Depends. Wargaming did so with their games for example.

1 hour ago, aleex said:

It’s normal to involve external people in alphas? Or it’s something that it’s usually made in the betas? 

 

 

Alpha testing is normally done internally, usually quicker and easier to do it that way as it's an earlier stage and it takes a lot of effort to get public involvement.

Beta testing is done in a production environment so when everything is pretty much ready to go but you want to iron out many bugs before "official" release.

4 hours ago, HughesMDflyer4 said:

I would take those posts with a huge grain of salt. There's lots of trolls and attention seekers in these groups (at least in the decently large MSFS group I'm in).

Yeah I didn't say I believed them. Just sayin 😄

I guess Microsoft's idea of inviting people for tech alpha 1 involves finding some poor old bloke running an old 9800 GT in the middle of Antartica on a 1 Mbps satellite internet connection.  Lucky b*****d. 😂

Edited October 23, 20196 yr by KillerKlient

23 hours ago, aleex said:

It’s normal to involve external people in alphas? Or it’s something that it’s usually made in the betas? 

 

 

It's very, very unusual at the AAA level. Perhaps unheard of. 

And even at the indie level, it's usually billed as paid early access, not giving people alpha builds to test and professionally report on. 

Is there an actual definition of what an alpha is and what a beta is? I’ve tested ‘betas’ that barely worked, and tested ‘alphas’ that were basically release-worthy and just had a couple of fundamental bugs that were fixed quickly, and it was more about just adding content over time. Seems like a label to manage expectations more than anything else these days.