January 20, 20206 yr Hi, Looking for some tips, I'm more a GA pilot, currently flying all over Australia step by step, but now I'm looking for a bigger airplane mainly A320 to cross country and start with NZ Would you have any good tips on which one should I buy ? As I won't fly it very often I'd like it to be not too expensive if possible :) Second tips, I have an ipad and I'd like to put the FMC on it, is this possible we p3d v4.5 ? Thank you in advance
January 20, 20206 yr Well there's really only two, FSLabs or Aerosoft. Aerosofts is the cheapest and FSLabs is more expensive but is more accurate. Both have working FMC's. Edited January 20, 20206 yr by williebarry1
January 20, 20206 yr Author Thank, I was looking for the aerosoft, seems to be good enough for me :) Any idea for an app or something to put the fmc on ipad and fully functional ?
January 20, 20206 yr 20 minutes ago, dyl55 said: Hi, Looking for some tips, I'm more a GA pilot, currently flying all over Australia step by step, but now I'm looking for a bigger airplane mainly A320 to cross country and start with NZ Would you have any good tips on which one should I buy ? As I won't fly it very often I'd like it to be not too expensive if possible 🙂 Second tips, I have an ipad and I'd like to put the FMC on it, is this possible we p3d v4.5 ? Thank you in advance Hi, The way I see it, you have two choices. 1-Aerosoft A320, relatively inexpensive, simulates the basic, works well. 2-FsLabs A320, expensive but simulates in a much more thorough way all the different systems of the aircraft. In fact you get what you pay for. In your case option #1 might be the right one for you (not too expensive). I own both models, even if most of the time I fly the FsLabs, I don't hate to take the Aerosoft from time to time. Richard. Richard Portier MAXIMUS VI FORMULA|Intel® Core i7-4770K [email protected] x8|NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti|M16GB DDR3|Windows10 Pro 64|P3Dv5|AFS2|TrackIr5|Saitek ProFlight Yoke + Quadrant + Rudder Pedal|Thrustmaster Warthog A10|
January 20, 20206 yr @dyl55 I subscribe to the short answer from @williebarry1 but would want to add a bit more info: In your case I would go for Aerosoft. It is less expensive then the FSL version and all standard OPS are included (meanig you will fly it from A to B). The FSL is a study level ACFT meaning also failures are included. While I don't own the new Professional line from Aerosoft, I owned the pre Professional same time i had the FSL. Even though I mostly fly the FSL from A to B, I find the Fly By Wire implementation and the ACFT behaviour way better in the FSL then the AS. Gerald K. - Germany AMD 7800x3D / ASUS ROG X670E-Gaming / ASUS Strix RTX 3090 OC / 64 Gb RAM GSKILL. "Flightstick" = X56 HOTAS RGB Logitech
January 20, 20206 yr From what you say the "Professional Aerosoft Airbus's " don't be fooled by that stupid labelling "Professional" If you have the money and want to really get into an airbus then the FSL, its nothing to do with failures its the immersion level is on a different level to anything else let alone the AS Bus. But for a odd flight here and there and you say you don't want to spend much, then the very cheap priced AS Bus's sound the right was to go for you. Enjoy! David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
January 20, 20206 yr If you mention the price in your initial post, which recommendation do you expect other than "get the cheaper one" out there. But be aware you also get a sort of half baked A320 then. If you want the most comprehensive and immersive Airliner simulation ever made, then get the other one. Also be aware, the cheaper one isn't the easier one, it's Autopilot can do unpredictable and therefore confusing things. The most authentic one is the easier one, because that as close as possible simulates what Airbus intended it to be. Mike 1. A320 home cockpit (FSLabs, Skalarki), P3Dv5 Main PC : I7-12700K, GTX3080Ti 2. FSLabs A3xx, P3Dv5. Gigabyte Aorus 17G YC, I7-10700K, RTX 3080
January 20, 20206 yr I dont feel the Aerosoft A300 series is "half baked". Specially for the price difference. Purchase the Aerosoft version and save enough many to get a couple other addons such as GSX.
January 20, 20206 yr If you buy the FS Labs A320 you won’t have to worry about not flying it very often, it will be all you want to fly. Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
January 20, 20206 yr Go with the complete bells and whistles - in this it would be FSLabs. When spending money on simulation products, to me I want the most realistic addon there is (even if I never use all the features - it will take some time) How I Evaluate Third Party Sim Addon Developers Refined P3Dv5.0 HF2 Settings Part1 (has MaddogX) and older thread Part 2 (has PMDG 747)
January 20, 20206 yr If you buy everything from FSLabs, you'll pay about 3-4 times as much, depending on VAT. The Aerosoft buses get you about 80-90% there. If the "premium markup" is worth it, is for you to decide. That also depends whether you can tolerate the left intake reverse duct valve not being modeled on the Aerosoft models.
January 20, 20206 yr 46 minutes ago, mikealpha said: But be aware you also get a sort of half baked A320 then. If you want the most comprehensive and immersive Airliner simulation ever made, then get the other one. Also be aware, the cheaper one isn't the easier one, it's Autopilot can do unpredictable and therefore confusing things. There is nothing "half baked" about the Aerosoft plane, and the autopilot works just fine.
January 20, 20206 yr 18 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said: There is nothing "half baked" about the Aerosoft plane, and the autopilot works just fine. sorry, yes, maybe improper wording, I did not want to insult the Aerosoft offering. Of course it has its entertainment value. The FSLabs A320 is light years ahead when it comes to simulation depth, little details and authenticity. If anyone needs that or wants that is up to everyone. Edited January 20, 20206 yr by mikealpha 1. A320 home cockpit (FSLabs, Skalarki), P3Dv5 Main PC : I7-12700K, GTX3080Ti 2. FSLabs A3xx, P3Dv5. Gigabyte Aorus 17G YC, I7-10700K, RTX 3080
January 20, 20206 yr 55 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said: The Aerosoft buses get you about 80-90% there. In your dreams. Or like many who have never flown the FSL kind themselves its 90% lol. Not even 80% not even 75%. The PMDG NGXu is 90% that's about the closest anyone gets in the jetliner class. It surpasses the FSL in the VC modelling and out side modelling but even with that its still not got the immersion to make it a match and even the new much better VC lighting is still bad. But for the OP the AS one could be perfect. Edited January 20, 20206 yr by Nyxx David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
January 20, 20206 yr To answer the OP's question about a remote FMC, it's possible with both the FSL and Aerosoft Scarebus add-ons. The FSL version incorporates an integrated web server that you connect to with a browser on pretty much pick-your-device...the Aerosoft requires a third party app called Remote CDU ($11) to do the same thing. As to which one...if you only intend casual use, the Aerosoft 'bus is probably the better choice, as the FSL one is quite complex, and rather poorly documented. The learning curve for the addon itself is considerably steeper than the Aerosoft version. The FSL is a high-fidelity simulation at a price that reflects that...and the Aerosoft version takes a more skin-deep approach at a more consumer-level price. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
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