2 minutes ago, suchw said:

Thats not exactly true im running a finely tuned i7 8700k non clocked with a asus strix 1080ti  with 32gb ram and v4 and v5 run well but i still see the occasional ctd and unexplained issued but i think given the complexity of the sim and other loads on the operating system its probably normal

Not sure what's "not exactly true", since you didn't quote anything.  But rumor on the street is that LM's working on it.

13 minutes ago, Nobody2020 said:

You're SPOT ON.  I NEVER had any.

A lot of these hysterical complaints come from people running systems that aren't up to the task.

I thought v4 was fine, for what it was capable of doing.  But now, having tasted what v5's capable of, despite the roll-out warts and blemishes that we all expect, it's head'n shoulders above what v4 ever could have been.

But the dirty little secret is, if you wanna' play, you gotta' pay.  Don't be bringin' yo' little GTX 1070 to the game.  It ain't yo' grandaddy's sim anymo'.

Sorry was referring to the above, i have a capable system and see the odd ctd in both v4 and v5, love v5 its a strong performer

1 hour ago, suchw said:

V5 is great but im really at a loss why i loose over 50 % of my frame rates when i turn off atmospherics, it runs like a beast with it on

 

Sitting at ybaf in australia with aus orbx v2 in the a2a 172 with high settings

 

Atmospherics off 26 frames

Atmospherics on 64 frames

 

Anybody else seeing this

 

Thanks

Wayne

This sim blows me away been playing around with the settings as i thought surely 26 fps with atmospherics off is not right, dont really know what changed but now getting 90 plus frames and around 50 fps around very dense orbx city scape areas in c172 a2a, buttery smooth and looks gorgeous now with and without truesky

1 hour ago, Nobody2020 said:

You're SPOT ON.  I NEVER had any.

A lot of these hysterical complaints come from people running systems that aren't up to the task.

I thought v4 was fine, for what it was capable of doing.  But now, having tasted what v5's capable of, despite the roll-out warts and blemishes that we all expect, it's head'n shoulders above what v4 ever could have been.

But the dirty little secret is, if you wanna' play, you gotta' pay.  Don't be bringin' yo' little GTX 1070 to the game.  It ain't yo' grandaddy's sim anymo'.

Ma lil ole GTX1070 runs version 5 jus fine. Today I had a loverly flight across Puerto Rico and painted 60 smooth FPS. ORBX NALC with sliders well to the right flying Crenado C208.

1 hour ago, suchw said:

V5 is great but im really at a loss why i loose over 50 % of my frame rates when i turn off atmospherics, it runs like a beast with it on

 

Sitting at ybaf in australia with aus orbx v2 in the a2a 172 with high settings

 

Atmospherics off 26 frames

Atmospherics on 64 frames

 

Anybody else seeing this

 

Thanks

Wayne

Yes me too. I have vastly better performance with Atmospherics turned on. Makes little sense. 

8 minutes ago, SolRayz said:

Yes me too. I have vastly better performance with Atmospherics turned on. Makes little sense. 

Edit forgot to turn off vsync now all is well, v5 is a beast

 

I had some ridiculously good performance with both atmostherics on and off with very high settings 70 plus frames now after reload back to max of 30, something strange going on

Edited April 27, 20206 yr by suchw

All those performance discussions. I really wonder, what is behind the increased performance, as I start to doubt that the increase is so phenomenal as most users post the longer I use v5 and the more stuff I add. Does this ring a bell? Comparing a new installed sim vs. an already installed one stuffed with addons is never really wise to do...

All I can say now with 90% of my stuff moved over from v4.5 to v5 is that yes, the performance in v5 is slightly better. Very slightly. And very variable:

I can now for example perform smooth flights (25-30FPS) around EHAM with pretty high settings and with FT EHAM and TE Netherlands both active, including a considerable amount of AI traffic and bad weather settings (using TrueSky). This was hardly possible in v4.5. However, I did not yet test this scenario with a PMDG or an AS bird.

On the other hand, using a Carenado plane to fly out of LVFR Miami results in 20-24 FPS, almost the same I had in v4.5, even slightly worse. I get 25-30FPS when flying with the SF340 from Carenado out of Sydney (FT plus ORBX Australia v2), which is exactly the same FPS I get in v4.5.

So, in the end I guess it is really a relative performance increase. On some scenarios I see almost a huge leap forward, on other scenarios I see nothing at all.

1 minute ago, AnkH said:

All those performance discussions. I really wonder, what is behind the increased performance, as I start to doubt that the increase is so phenomenal as most users post the longer I use v5 and the more stuff I add. Does this ring a bell? Comparing a new installed sim vs. an already installed one stuffed with addons is never really wise to do...

All I can say now with 90% of my stuff moved over from v4.5 to v5 is that yes, the performance in v5 is slightly better. Very slightly. And very variable:

I can now for example perform smooth flights (25-30FPS) around EHAM with pretty high settings and with FT EHAM and TE Netherlands both active, including a considerable amount of AI traffic and bad weather settings (using TrueSky). This was hardly possible in v4.5. However, I did not yet test this scenario with a PMDG or an AS bird.

On the other hand, using a Carenado plane to fly out of LVFR Miami results in 20-24 FPS, almost the same I had in v4.5, even slightly worse. I get 25-30FPS when flying with the SF340 from Carenado out of Sydney (FT plus ORBX Australia v2), which is exactly the same FPS I get in v4.5.

So, in the end I guess it is really a relative performance increase. On some scenarios I see almost a huge leap forward, on other scenarios I see nothing at all.

Good post im definently seeing a big improvement but im yet to add pmdg and active sky into the mix, my sliders are well to the right and its butter smooth and looks fantastic, 

It puzzles me why LM released P3Dv5 with lots of these issues (and after being advised not to by beta testers). Why would a multi billion dollar defence contractor need to release it until it was ready?

Edited April 27, 20206 yr by Christopher Low

Just now, Christopher Low said:

It puzzles me why LM released P3Dv5 with lots of these issues (and after being advised not to by beta testers). Why would a multi billion dollar defence contractor need to release it until it was ready?

Another good question maybe for internal communication or perhaps they didn't see the issues at time of testing on their hard ware

19 minutes ago, AnkH said:

All those performance discussions. I really wonder, what is behind the increased performance, as I start to doubt that the increase is so phenomenal as most users post the longer I use v5 and the more stuff I add. Does this ring a bell? Comparing a new installed sim vs. an already installed one stuffed with addons is never really wise to do...

All I can say now with 90% of my stuff moved over from v4.5 to v5 is that yes, the performance in v5 is slightly better. Very slightly. And very variable:

I can now for example perform smooth flights (25-30FPS) around EHAM with pretty high settings and with FT EHAM and TE Netherlands both active, including a considerable amount of AI traffic and bad weather settings (using TrueSky). This was hardly possible in v4.5. However, I did not yet test this scenario with a PMDG or an AS bird.

On the other hand, using a Carenado plane to fly out of LVFR Miami results in 20-24 FPS, almost the same I had in v4.5, even slightly worse. I get 25-30FPS when flying with the SF340 from Carenado out of Sydney (FT plus ORBX Australia v2), which is exactly the same FPS I get in v4.5.

So, in the end I guess it is really a relative performance increase. On some scenarios I see almost a huge leap forward, on other scenarios I see nothing at all.

I'm using true sky, orbx scenery and the fps heavy ngxu. In P3Dv4 places like heathrow were a slide show even with medium to low settings . Now in v5 at heathrow with much denser scenery settings and much further draw distance and even with overcast conditions I am getting way better and smoother performance.

 

Huge improvement for me!

Edited April 27, 20206 yr by Matthew James de Bohun
Typo

6 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

It puzzles me why LM released P3Dv5 with lots of these issues (and after being advised not to by beta testers). Why would a multi billion dollar defence contractor need to release it until it was ready?

B/c everyone now is a paid technical beta tester.  Think about it lol.  More datasets to fix the bugs faster lol.

That is my assumption or maybe third party devs wanted to get some sales out due to looming MSFS2020; and maybe LM felt it was time.  Number of factors probably.

 

They released it to get as big a jump om MSFS as possible. Plan and simple. No software is ever released ready. That's why there are updates over the core of its development. They made a business decision to get this out the door a bit before it was ready for. It will be 6 months by the time its as it should be for release and it'll be 5.2 by then but MSFS will probably being released at that time. By then Prepar3D V5 will likely have sold enough copies for them to not have losses on it. They need to be in black ink before MSFS is released cause it might be all over by then.

Personally, I thinks it great. I have nearly all my scenery and airports installed. All I want is ASN, AIG, A2A, Milvis, PMDG and a couple of others and P3D is then a finished project for me.

I'm more concerned about another problem. Airports They used something in the 5th version and all my airports have problems. They could have been left alone. I have many free airports since version 3. Who will redo them? Need a simple method of adapting airports.

14 minutes ago, Quasimodo said:

They released it to get as big a jump om MSFS as possible. Plan and simple. No software is ever released ready. That's why there are updates over the core of its development. They made a business decision to get this out the door a bit before it was ready for. It will be 6 months by the time its as it should be for release and it'll be 5.2 by then but MSFS will probably being released at that time. By then Prepar3D V5 will likely have sold enough copies for them to not have losses on it. They need to be in black ink before MSFS is released cause it might be all over by then.

Personally, I thinks it great. I have nearly all my scenery and airports installed. All I want is ASN, AIG, A2A, Milvis, PMDG and a couple of others and P3D is then a finished project for me.

I would say a lot of LM clients wont care about new ms sim and will stick with LM