11 hours ago, SolRayz said:

The HF and the Win10 2004 update is what I'm looking forward to. 

When roughly is the win10 update due? 

I haven't purchased v5 myself yet because I'm waiting for the HF this week, but I can't help but notice that a lot of the poor performance or only slightly better performance complaints seem to be coming from people who seem to throw all kinds of addons into v5 as a copy over from v4.5. That's not to say things like high VRAM usage aren't real, but perhaps it's prudent to wait for an official update for these addons before judging performance, especially if you're on a system which uses some older components because developers may also still be implementing performance adjustments in their yet-to-be-updated addons and generally adapt them to DX12.

Edited April 27, 20206 yr by threegreen

Along with VRAM crashes, other issues are random CTDs and invisible walls(?!)  Even without any addons I have encountered CTDs. It will likely take more than one patch to get it to a fairly stable 'daily flyer' product.

Are those "invisible walls" a problem with crash detection set to OFF?

indeed it is

Yup. Went back to 4.5 and haven't hit anything, yet.

So nice to have everything work.

quote from LM forum just now

Hello,

We will be putting out a hotfix this week fixing this issue as well as other improvements. We are currently finalizing and testing everything needed for the fix. Thanks again for your reports and patience while we worked through this issue.

Regards,
Rob McCarthy

3 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

When roughly is the win10 update due? 

Mid-May. But you can get it today by signing up for the Windows Insider program. You sign up, change a setting on your computer, restart and run Windows update. Pretty painless. YMMV.

22 minutes ago, threegreen said:

I haven't purchased v5 myself yet because I'm waiting for the HF this week, but I can't help but notice that a lot of the poor performance or only slightly better performance complaints seem to be coming from people who seem to throw all kinds of addons into v5 as a copy over from v4.5.

I have only v5 compatible add-ons installed. The VRAM crush is real, but also manageable.  I did some testing and the only thing that adds to VRAM from what we used in v4.5 is Truesky (given the same settings and add ons. But because of the way VRAM is managed in DX12, the punishment for over-indulging is usually a CTD, whereas in v4.5 the punishment was usually "just" bad stutters resulting from overflowing into shared GPU memory (system RAM).

Overall, the challenge right now is stability. I've been using v5 pretty much exclusively since it was released, and got confident enough over the weekend to rebuild my system with only v5 + native v5 add-ons.  I can easily induce a CTD, by changing views on certain aircraft (including default) or by trying to load certain combinations of scenery, aircraft and settings. But by now I've learned what I can and can't do, and for me, even with these seemingly crippling limitations, I can run a crashless sim session for hours.  The improved lighting, Truesky, Waveworks and almost complete elimination of stutters (including the old ORBX loading pause) outweigh buggy winds aloft/weather injection problems, occasional plane crashes at 500ft AGL and general instability.  I do look forward to being able to safely change views, not being in constant turbulence in the flight levels and not worrying that I might crash the plane in midair.

I'm sure the hotfix will address some of these issues, but I'm not naive enough to think everything will be great after just one hotfix. Hopefully it fixes the g2d.dll and vcruntime related DGXI video card crashes, the invisible terrain/mesh issue and the winds aloft injection problem to start. Better VRAM optimization and dynamic settings adjustment to live within system limits is probably farther off, as are further enhancements to Truesky, like eliminating the weird pixelation around scenery objects and terrain when clouds are present or adding cloud layers.

If you have an appetite for actively managing your settings to maintain stability, I'd say go for it, I love it warts and all, but if you get easily frustrated by crashes and "just want it to work" (which is totally fair) then I'd wait a while - at least until the first hotfix is out and evaluated.

Il y a 4 heures, fluffyflops a déclaré:

Quand la mise à jour Win10 est-elle prévue? 

Mid-May, you must register for the Windows Insider program to benefit from it. Attention it is updated before the official release are not guaranteed and are often unstable.
Many users report problems with applications. This is at your own risk.

9 minutes ago, cwburnett said:

I have only v5 compatible add-ons installed. The VRAM crush is real, but also manageable.  I did some testing and the only thing that adds to VRAM from what we used in v4.5 is Truesky (given the same settings and add ons. But because of the way VRAM is managed in DX12, the punishment for over-indulging is usually a CTD, whereas in v4.5 the punishment was usually "just" bad stutters resulting from overflowing into shared GPU memory (system RAM).

I agree. VRAM management has changed with v5/DX12 and requires the end user's attention a lot more than before. But based on how the GPU is being worked more in v5 I'm expecting cases where VRAM usage goes up in general as soon as most addons are updated and running at the same time with higher settings. P3D v5 has made a huge leap forward in terms of GPU utilization as far as I can tell from reports which puts it closer to how modern games typically utilize hardware. So I think those with lower end or older GPUs may need to upgrade depending on the addons and settings used. LM have also upgraded the recommended GPU from the 1080Ti for v4 to the 2080Ti for v5 and increased VRAM capacity is certainly one of the key factors here. So whether LM can further work on VRAM management or not, GPU requirements just got higher with v5 it seems and that's not surprising considering how DX12 works.

For anyone interested, there is a good thread by @Sesquashtoo about DX11/12 differences that illuminates VRAM usage in DX12 further.

14 hours ago, suchw said:

V5 is great but im really at a loss why i loose over 50 % of my frame rates when i turn off atmospherics, it runs like a beast with it on

 

Sitting at ybaf in australia with aus orbx v2 in the a2a 172 with high settings

 

Atmospherics off 26 frames

Atmospherics on 64 frames

 

Anybody else seeing this

 

Thanks

Wayne

Not for me. Just the opposite.

57 minutes ago, cwburnett said:

Mid-May. But you can get it today by signing up for the Windows Insider program. You sign up, change a setting on your computer, restart and run Windows update. Pretty painless. YMMV.

Adding to that, the current build is RTM, meaning it's done. It's not some dodgy test build still being heavily patched, it'll be exactly what will be available come may. 

54 minutes ago, guibru said:

Mid-May, you must register for the Windows Insider program to benefit from it. Attention it is updated before the official release are not guaranteed and are often unstable.
Many users report problems with applications. This is at your own risk.

 

54 minutes ago, guibru said:

Mid-May, you must register for the Windows Insider program to benefit from it. Attention it is updated before the official release are not guaranteed and are often unstable.
Many users report problems with applications. This is at your own risk.

Thank you 

2 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

Are those "invisible walls" a problem with crash detection set to OFF?

hope this is going to be resolved -  yes is a problem and never know when it does strike ! nice sim by the way !

13 minutes ago, arsenal82 said:

hope this is going to be resolved -  yes is a problem and never know when it does strike ! nice sim by the way !

Its getting fixed in the hotfix that is coming out this week. Thats what was quoted by the LM lead. So hopefully it drops by Wed/Thursday. If they are nice they drop it tomorrow lol.