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ORBX Question P3dv4 & v5?

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There is the option to install ORBX in its own library outside the sim as well as inside.  While I have always installed inside P3d,  I wonder what most of you do.

Out of habit, I installed it into P3DV5.

Greg

 

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I always install inside the sim, but when you do a clean install of  P3Dv5 you lose the Orbx files and have to re-install Orbx.

If on the other hand you install outside P3Dv5 you don`t have to re-install the Orbx files when you do a clean install of P3Dv5

I have never installed outside the sim, I don`t know why, maybe I just like to do a clean install of everything.

I don`t know if it makes any difference to the running of Orbx, the same as I`m not sure if it makes any difference if you install the addons on a different SSD drive. I have P3Dv5 and the addons and Orbx on the same SSD evxternal drive

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I've installed everything in a main library outside of the P3D folder and it is working just fine. Nice way to keep it separated.

46 minutes ago, Chuck Dreier said:

There is the option to install ORBX in its own library outside the sim as well as inside.  While I have always installed inside P3d,  I wonder what most of you do.

Hi Chuck,

I would recommend using the library outside the sim option. The reason is that if you decide you need to do a complete reinstall of P3D, all your installed Orbx products remain untouched, as they are "housed" outside of the P3D folder.. You can then after the P3D reinstall simply use the "resync" feature in Orbx Central and it should re-add all your Orbx products back into P3D without the need to re-download and reinstall anything from scratch.

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Jerome

Guess it comes to comparing pros and cons for each approach.  First, I like to have scenery installed where P3D can access it at equal or close speed as it can access itself, i.e., if P3D is installed on a PCIe NVMe SSD, I wouldn't install scenery on a HDD or even an external SSD.  This, of course, provided I have the available storage capacity in the preferred media.  Next, not having to reinstall a product when I install a P3D upgrade is a plus since I reduce the chances of introducing errors and get to enjoy the update faster.  This assumes that P3D's preferred method of installing scenery works without any performance degradation, etc.  Hope this helps you.  I'm sure others will offer what works best for them.  

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I had installed all Orbx sceneriws out of habit,  inside v5 when it first came out.

But I then chose the option of migrating all the sceneries over to the Library. This worked really well, I expect we will be getting a good few more updates and hotfixes for v5 yet - and it's really easy to just activate them rather than reinstall, So I would say it's really worthwhile to do that nowadays.

Ray

All outside if possible, of course. I can't see ANY advantage of installing inside the sim folder. Maybe it looks cleaner in the folder structure, but i think thats a bit acting like Monk.

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41 minutes ago, Recognition said:

when you do a clean install of  P3Dv5 you lose the Orbx files and have to re-install Orbx.

If you follow the letter of the P3D guide, you do indeed lose everything. If you follow it but do not delete the P3D root folder or all your configuration files, you lose very little, Orbx or anyone else's stuff, aircraft included.

If I want to install both P3D V4.5 and 5 on the same drive, would it be possible to install ORBX products in one library as a separate folder and would both versions of P3D be able to access ORBX products from that library? If possible, that would save a lot of SSD space. Thanks in advance for a reply.

3 minutes ago, vinodkk said:

If I want to install both P3D V4.5 and 5 on the same drive, would it be possible to install ORBX products in one library as a separate folder and would both versions of P3D be able to access ORBX products from that library?

Nope, unfortunatly not.

It would trigger problems in the future when textures are updated for suiting v5 that won't work properly in v4.

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My reason for not installing outside the P3D folder is that to do so would mean having the library on a separate mechanical drive whereas my P3D install is on an SSD.  It seems logical to have P3D and the orbx library on the same type of drive be it NVMe, SATA SSD or mechanical HDD.  Perhaps if I get a second larger SSD I will make the move but in the meantime if you keep a backup of your ORBX folder anywhere on your PC or an external HDD it is quite a simple process for reinstalling all your ORBX stuff after an upgrade without having to download very much at all apart from FTX global.

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22 minutes ago, brucewtb said:

My reason for not installing outside the P3D folder is that to do so would mean having the library on a separate mechanical drive whereas my P3D install is on an SSD.

That is a misunderstanding... your library can be on the same drive as the P3D folder.

After the migration it does not take up more space than when it was inside the P3D folder.. :happy:

The additional flexibility however is that you can have several library folders on different drives if you wish.. :smile:

Edited by Bert Pieke

Bert

Thanks Bert. Yes I thought someone would point this out but the main attraction for me in having the library outside the sim would be to free up space on my SSD drive.  Also I would have thought that to move your Orbx stuff to another folder on your P3D drive there would need to be enough space which there isn't even if after the move there would be.  But up to now I have had no issues with reinstalling Orbx stuff in successive P3D4 versions.  I am contemplating purchasing a second large (2-4 TB) SSD for v5 if I decide to upgrade and/or FS2020 so this may all change.

Bruceb

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