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Now I know why 2020 is such a terrible year. It's because MFS2020 is taking all of its good news for itself. 🤣

Congrats to FlightAware and Asobo. Can't wait to see this in action!

but they didn't explain yet how they gonna handle by atc  when the plane reaches close to destination airport  cause in fsx  when there was a lot of  ai planes lading  was  terrible cause most have to go around

1 hour ago, miguel88 said:

but they didn't explain yet how they gonna handle by atc  when the plane reaches close to destination airport  cause in fsx  when there was a lot of  ai planes lading  was  terrible cause most have to go around

I remember from the IFR feature discovery the ATC was giving speed commands to the user aircraft.  If they are given to AI to in the "terminal area", then perhaps approach spacing will be much better managed than we've seen before.  Also if AI is flying SID/STARS, that will also help organise the arrival pattern.

What they are doing with AI looks excellent, one thing I hope they'll show at some point is what these AI aircraft look like close up and preferbly as a landing and takeoff "movie".  The questions I have are:

What's the range of AI models available in the sim, what's the visual quality of the models (and there may be compromises in AI models for good performance reasons)?

What compromises are made in the flight model compared to the user's experience,

How are airline paint schemes handled? 

The latter may all boil down to a template paint, like we see on the user airbus and 747.  If so, perhaps an opportunity for third parties?  Any of this info already published? Would be glad to be pointed to it.

Simon

Edited July 3, 20205 yr by flying_w

Good question, how the sim ATC directing the sim traffic will interact with the Flightaware generated RW traffic ?

And what about the General Aviation traffic ? I had a look at Flightaware, the number of GA aircraft is minuscule. Will FS20 generate its own GA artificial traffic to compensate ?

What I want to know is how it handles aircraft type and livery. They say I can take over AI aircraft; what if that aircraft is a B1900D or a 777? Emirates air or Qantas?

Will that AI traffic just be the A320 Neo?

36 minutes ago, WestAir said:

What I want to know is how it handles aircraft type and livery. They say I can take over AI aircraft; what if that aircraft is a B1900D or a 777? Emirates air or Qantas?

Will that AI traffic just be the A320 Neo?

FlightAware provides the aircraft type and reg. Based on this a similar model is chosen by MSFS. We still need the community to add more variations in models and real life airline textures. One thing that may be hard is to determine whether a plane (B738) is a regular 737-800 or one with BW or SSW.

I wonder if we get to see those planes when we'd fly next to them ... what plane will be shown if you get  a 737 in sight?

EDIT: lol, I see I was not the only one wondering ... duplicated the Q.

Edited July 3, 20205 yr by RudyB24

2 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

And what about the General Aviation traffic ? I had a look at Flightaware, the number of GA aircraft is minuscule. Will FS20 generate its own GA artificial traffic to compensate ?

Are you sure? I always used Flightradar24 and it showed all the traffic, even the recreational gliders.

 

I'm curious how they are going to handle the traffic with ATC.

I suppose when a plane in RL is on final the AI takes over. But what if the RL plane goes around, will it do this in the sim also?

Also, in the very busy airports, it would be almost impossible to find a spot to takeoff/land. Solution could be to only show 90% of the RL traffic in the sim, so there are holes in the constant flow of aircraft. Just thinking out loud.... so many questions....

Just now, MaVe64 said:

Are you sure?  ..

I am sure of nothing; I just went to the FA map on their page and saw very little GA in the EU and NA. 

13 minutes ago, MaVe64 said:

Are you sure? I always used Flightradar24 and it showed all the traffic, even the recreational gliders.

 

I'm curious how they are going to handle the traffic with ATC.

I suppose when a plane in RL is on final the AI takes over. But what if the RL plane goes around, will it do this in the sim also?

Also, in the very busy airports, it would be almost impossible to find a spot to takeoff/land. Solution could be to only show 90% of the RL traffic in the sim, so there are holes in the constant flow of aircraft. Just thinking out loud.... so many questions....

That is exactly what happens. You can set the ai traffic, ground and air. Airports like lax are jfk usually has a lot of traffic and too much will be hard on performance 

Wow, Heathrow's going to be fun on a Friday evening.

Fantastic!

5 hours ago, RudyB24 said:

... what plane will be shown if you get  a 737 in sight?

I think that's why there's a Tab called Marketplace.

I do not dream. AI will go crazy when it has 10,000 children playing "flying" on its back with a B747 in short final ...

8 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

And what about the General Aviation traffic ? I had a look at Flightaware, the number of GA aircraft is minuscule. Will FS20 generate its own GA artificial traffic to compensate ?

 

5 hours ago, MaVe64 said:

Are you sure? I always used Flightradar24 and it showed all the traffic, even the recreational gliders.

 

I'm curious how they are going to handle the traffic with ATC.

I suppose when a plane in RL is on final the AI takes over. But what if the RL plane goes around, will it do this in the sim also?

Also, in the very busy airports, it would be almost impossible to find a spot to takeoff/land. Solution could be to only show 90% of the RL traffic in the sim, so there are holes in the constant flow of aircraft. Just thinking out loud.... so many questions....

 

5 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

I am sure of nothing; I just went to the FA map on their page and saw very little GA in the EU and NA. 

Flightaware uses the standard ADS-B transponder to track aircraft.  ADS-B data is lacking in many parts of the world (there's another thread here related to that) and particularly over the oceans where only satellite ADS-B is possible.  Many GA and military aircraft do not have ADS-B transponders, or choose to turn them off as they are not required.  Hence, there are many aircraft actually flying but missing from the data.

Edit: Interesting read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_dependent_surveillance_–_broadcast

Edited July 3, 20205 yr by Gridley
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