1 minute ago, Chock said:

otherwise what was it I paid 109 quid for, instead of 60?

9 other aircraft and 10 additional airports.

If you divide the added price by the amount of content, the 787 ends up being $2.45.

1 minute ago, ludekbrno said:

Who expected a professional model comparable to add-ons with dozens dollars price, must be a heavily naive.

Nobody is expecting that, but I'd expect the EFB to display the ground map instead of sitting there like someone forgot to charge the bloody thing. How hard can that be?

13 minutes ago, leonardus said:

9 other aircraft and 10 additional airports.

If you divide the added price by the amount of content, the 787 ends up being $2.45.

So, economics of production not your strong point then I take it? See if I can help... Let's be conservative and say MSFS sells 2 million copies, and we'll be conservative again and say they were all standard versions at 60 quid a pop for simple maths. Multiply that 2.45 by that number of units shifted and that gives you a little bit shy of five million dollars of course. Now I'm pretty sure that would cover a programmer spending a couple of afternoons on sorting out the 787, so it had some features unique to a 787 to make it feel a bit more like one rather than just being a cookie-cutter lookalike.

Edited August 14, 20205 yr by Chock

11 minutes ago, leonardus said:

9 other aircraft and 10 additional airports.

If you divide the added price by the amount of content, the 787 ends up being $2.45.

for me the value is 0€ , i shall only do a test with my neigbor next friday let him give me the answer, not some YT video pro or beta testers

retired Nax 787 Capitan ( corona)

Edited August 14, 20205 yr by westman

The closer we get to release, the nicer people are to each other. 🙂 

Was it this way on all previous releases?

Hook

Just now, LHookins said:

Was it this way on all previous releases?

I recall some very heated debates (maybe not on Avsim) back in 2006 weither the FSX A320 would smoke the PSS A320 (for FS2002 and FS9) in terms of fidelity. 😁 or that FSX finally is a round globe and not a cylinder meaning everyone gets a sloped runway! (doing my best Oprah-imitation)

So yeah, we seem to be par on course.

4 hours ago, GSalden said:

Unfortunately I see small stutters looking outside the windows. That I have seen on many preview vids..

relax! all is good! 😛

42 minutes ago, Chock said:

So, economics of production not your strong point then I take it? See if I can help... Let's be conservative and say MSFS sells 2 million copies, and we'll be conservative again and say they were all standard versions at 60 quid a pop for simple maths. Multiply that 2.45 by that number of units shifted and that gives you a little bit shy of five million dollars of course. Now I'm pretty sure that would cover a programmer spending a couple of afternoons on sorting out the 787, so it had some features unique to a 787 to make it feel a bit more like one rather than just being a cookie-cutter lookalike.

I think it's a bad calculation 🙂 . For me is only important, how much I paid for 787 and it was exactly 3$ 🙂 . For profi models I must pay maybe even 10x more. So for 3$ is a good purchase for me and I'm sure, that a bug fixes will come in near future.

4 hours ago, SierraDelta said:

Looks like it's finally possible to change the aircraft registration, he's using G-SQRL

One can easily change the registration for any aircraft by going to the “ATC” menu when loading. The change will be reflected on the painted registration on the fuselage and also the placard on the instrument panel. 

1 hour ago, Chock said:

Nobody is expecting that, but I'd expect the EFB to display the ground map instead of sitting there like someone forgot to charge the bloody thing. How hard can that be?

Purely speculating here an probably talking nonsense but looking at the 787 for the first time particularly Chewwy94’s content its clearly not well optimised yet an we know the glass seems to be a heavy resource so am thinking, the EFB has been left out intentionally to save FPS until it’s had a few patches.

1 hour ago, Chock said:

So, economics of production not your strong point then I take it? See if I can help... Let's be conservative and say MSFS sells 2 million copies, and we'll be conservative again and say they were all standard versions at 60 quid a pop for simple maths. Multiply that 2.45 by that number of units shifted and that gives you a little bit shy of five million dollars of course. Now I'm pretty sure that would cover a programmer spending a couple of afternoons on sorting out the 787, so it had some features unique to a 787 to make it feel a bit more like one rather than just being a cookie-cutter lookalike.

Aside from years of development cost. They still have continued infrastructure cost even if on their on servers. They have licensing cost, costs to developers outside of Asobo, continued payroll, etc... 

The dubious performance we’re seeing is in a systems-light aircraft flying on a cloudless day...

3 hours ago, sgreen91 said:

Because all the alpha and beta testers were saying you won't regret your purchase, its the best thing ever.  I believed them.

We also said these are default planes.  (Even if you ordered the premium deluxe like I did).  I think some people are bummed this 787 isn't as good as the QW 787....

You guys need to evaluate the Sim for yourself!

3 hours ago, sgreen91 said:

Because all the alpha and beta testers were saying you won't regret your purchase, its the best thing ever.  I believed them.

Who said that? Most testers who I saw speaking up at all were very careful in their wording, if they said anything at all.

5 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

We also said these are default planes.  (Even if you ordered the premium deluxe like I did).  I think some people are bummed this 787 isn't as good as the QW 787....

You guys need to evaluate the Sim for yourself!

But we’ve been told for 6 months that this is God’s own sim. Based on what some alpha testers have been posting, people have deleted their X-plane and p3d installs. 

Now we hear the “it’s just a default” excuse being rolled out. The backpedalling seems strong on this sub right now.

This was always going to be the case. It’s just a sim, not a miracle. Keep P3D or X-plane as an option for your airliner flying for now. That 787 looks like fun, and i’m looking forward to testing it out, but it’s not the sort of product that instantly renders the PMDG P3D aircraft fleet obsolete, despite what some around here would have you believe.