August 18, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, Colonel X said: After a day of testing, I came to the conclusion that the sim is at best in beta state when it comes to flying the included airliners. There are so many stutters / pauses at larger hubs, I don't know where to start. It doesn't have to do with settings, I lowered all of them for testing purposes. It's a hot mess at this point. Of course the included airliners were expected to be nothing to write home about to start with, but just to make that clear, the default 737 in XP11 is an order of magnitude better in all respects. It will take a lot of patches to make this an enjoyable experience for flying airliners. In this state, it's a clear AVOID. Just for reference, I am running a 9900K with a OC 1080ti, 16GB of RAM, fresh Windows 10. But as I stated above, these stutters and overall slugishness isn't cured by lowering settings. I have i7-9900K, 1060 6GB, and 32GB ram. Nothing overclocked and I took off with a 747 from JFK at night with no issues. I did have AI traffic off. Edited August 18, 20205 yr by Cryzin
August 18, 20205 yr Something must be wrong with my install,I have 9900K at 5 Gg,Hyperthreading on,,2080 ti strix at 1950, 64 Gb of DDR4 3200, and sim installed on 1tb M2,I loaded 787 at Toyko,with a flightplan to Boston, 10 pages of waypoints in FMC. I am getting 11Fps on high,with real weather. Edited August 18, 20205 yr by BIGSKY omission Jim Driscoll, MSI Raider GE76 12UHS-607 17.3" Gaming Laptop Computer - Blue Intel Core i9 12th Gen 12900HK 1.8GHz Processor; NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 16GB GDDR6; 64GB DDR5-4800 RAM; Dual M2 2TB Solid State Drives.Driving a Sony KD-50X75, and KDL-48R470B @ 4k 3724x2094,MSFS 2020, 30 FPS on Ultra Settings. Jorg/Asobo: “Weather is a core part of our simulator, and we will strive to make it as accurate as possible.”Also Jorg/Asobo: “We are going to limit the weather API to rain intensity only.”
August 18, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, BIGSKY said: Something must be wrong with my install,I have 9900K at 5 Gg,2080 ti strix at 1950, 64 Gb of DDR4 3200, and sim installed on 1tb M2,I loaded 787 at Toyko,with a flightplan to Boston, 10 pages of waypoints in FMC. I am getting 11Fps on high,with real weather. fascinating...try again with direct flightplan...lose all those waypoints and see if it changes anything. If that doesnt help try testing in offline mode. Edited August 18, 20205 yr by hangar Dave Kalin Excel Classes Computer Lessons
August 18, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, BIGSKY said: Something must be wrong with my install,I have 9900K at 5 Gg,Hyperthreading on,,2080 ti strix at 1950, 64 Gb of DDR4 3200, and sim installed on 1tb M2,I loaded 787 at Toyko,with a flightplan to Boston, 10 pages of waypoints in FMC. I am getting 11Fps on high,with real weather. This is interesting. I've noticed quite a few people (including op), having perf issues with the i9. I wonder if it's hyperthreading causing problems?
August 18, 20205 yr Did someone already tried loading a saved flightplan with the 787-10? Suprisingly the flight would load in again.....but the flightplan at the FMC is "gone" and FMC is empty....... Someone else? Marcus Regards, Marcus P.
August 18, 20205 yr Please post your Performance issue in the already existing topic. I would appreciate it if we keep this one on topic Regards, Marcus P.
August 18, 20205 yr 34 minutes ago, Colonel X said: Yes, and they all get the same stutters. You got a stutter free video on hand? Videos are very poor evidence of stutters, they often induced by the capture software, editor encoding and subsequent YouTube encoding Edited August 18, 20205 yr by ckyliu ckyliu, proud supporter of ViaIntercity.com. i5 12400F, 32GB, RTX4070, more in "About me" on my profile.
August 18, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, BIGSKY said: 10 pages of waypoints in FMC There is an issue at the moment that long flightplans that span a large distance or a large number of waypoints do seem to pretty negatively impact performance. If this is an issue that is impacting you, I would file a bug at the MSFS Zendesk: https://flightsimulator.zendesk.com/hc/en-us. The more users reporting it the better.
August 18, 20205 yr 31 minutes ago, goreckm said: By setting everything to lowest, I don't mean forever, but, it can help isolate if there's a setting or a combination which cause the stutters. Then you can turn everything else up, and keep the problematic settings lower until a patch arrives. Just a thought. Agreed. A lot of simmers start by whacking up everything to ultra then, disappointed, they start removing things. In my experience it is much better to start with absolutely basic settings, low detail everywhere, low resolution, low everything, then gradually add things and watch carefully for spikes and slowdowns. In the end it is a much more efficient way to optimise. Robert Young - retired full time developer - see my Nexus Mod Page and my GitHub Mod page
August 18, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, ckyliu said: Videos are very poor evidence of stutters, they often induced by the capture software, editor encoding and subsequent YouTube encoding Did you read what I wrote above? And if yes, why you keep posting these off topic things here? Regards, Marcus P.
August 18, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, robert young said: Agreed. A lot of simmers start by whacking up everything to ultra then, disappointed, they start removing things. In my experience it is much better to start with absolutely basic settings, low detail everywhere, low resolution, low everything, then gradually add things and watch carefully for spikes and slowdowns. In the end it is a much more efficient way to optimise. I think in this case, people are not 'whacking' it up to ultra, rather it is defaulting there for a lot of people...
August 18, 20205 yr Moderator 28 minutes ago, BIGSKY said: Something must be wrong with my install,I have 9900K at 5 Gg,Hyperthreading on,,2080 ti strix at 1950, 64 Gb of DDR4 3200, and sim installed on 1tb M2,I loaded 787 at Toyko,with a flightplan to Boston, 10 pages of waypoints in FMC. I am getting 11Fps on high,with real weather. All that info but you don’t mention screen resolution. Always include it otherwise your posts are lacking in critical info. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
August 18, 20205 yr Author Like back in the FSX says, I understand the "Ultra" setting a thing for future hardware generations, and reviewers praised Asobo for future-proofing the sim. Also, I have yet to notice a difference between High and Ultra - as with texture resolution, it's probably a thing of "how close can you get" to a certain asset. Flying above Manhattan at say, 5.000ft, you won't be able to tell buildings are HIGH or ULTRA. - Currently giving X-Plane 12.10 a spin on Shadow PC. 10 years with X-Plane now, since 10.20
August 18, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Chock said: Incidentally, that spin it entered after stalling when rolling inverted, was unrecoverable. I tried to roll it back the right way off the PFD, but it oversped in the dive, and since I have it on full realism, it over-stressed the airframe and game over. There are 2 types of pause, active pause where everything continues around you with the p button and regular pause. Active pause usually causes the airliners to act crazy if paused for too long
August 18, 20205 yr I'm with Colonel X on this. I had some high hopes when seeing the pre-release video's, but then my hopes took a hugh dive seeing the YT video's of people over the last 2 days. They all have stutter, and most have a lot. So this morning after some hassle to get the download working, i got a return from the sim that i had a medium system (fair enough): i7 4470K @4,5, GTX180ti, 32GB 2400 Ram, 2560x1440 G-Sync monitor, a few SSD's, 300MBit Internet (rest of the hardware is not that important). After running the setting where set to overall medium, i had a little run, performance was imho just terrible. Lot's of stutter, big and small. Looked for a way to get at least the FPS to display, went into developer modus and got the ingame data to display. First thing i noticed was the 100% load on the CPU, everytime it hit the 100%, the FPS figure took a dive. So i played around with the settings a bit: Game setting LOW: Cessna 152: still stutters but FPS hits 60 here and there but is not very constant. RAM used: 8-9 GB !!! (out of 32GB), VRAM used, 2.5!! (out of 11GB). On this setting i then lowered the FPS cap to 30. FPS was more constant but even then, still stuttering, short and long but overall a bit smoother. Even less RAM and VRAM was used. Game setting: ULTRA: Cessna 152: FPS can barely make it to 20, lots of stutter, long and short, not playable at all. But... RAM use: 13GB out of 32, VRAM use: 8 out of 11 available. CPU hits 100% almost constantly. I wonder: what people with a low end system do? And oh, i also run DCS, smooth as butter, same res, mix of medium and high settings overall, FPS there is +/- 90 on average. I'm overall highly dissapointed in the performance, even at everything at low settings (the only thing i'm happy for is that i changed the deluxe pro into a standard, for the moment this sim is wasted money in my eyes) PS: Colonel X: i feel your pain. Edited August 18, 20205 yr by Lange_666 Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base & hegykc MFG Crosswind modded pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S for VR
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