2 hours ago, Tomaz Drnovsek said:

I'm confident Asobo will iron out the bugs and add the missing features in timely fashion.

For me it all depends when some more complex aircraft from A2A/PMDG etc. will start appearing for MSFS2020... when this happens I'll make the switch. It's a flight simulator after all and not fancy Bing maps.

At this point of time it is technically not possible to have PMDG or FsLabs ac in MSFS.

First the SDK needs to be more enhanced.

Until MSFS comes anything near that P3D does for my kind of flying years will go by. After 3 days of installing (8Mbps here) and getting a first glance i don't see much that impresses me. I'm not an eyecandy guy BTW 😉

3 hours ago, Gabe777 said:

Yup. Eye candy versus personality.

That's it in a nutshell.  Am I surprised, disappointed, etc? Nope, I'm still amazed at the engine that was created the potential is huge.   Will it move towards something that will satisfy the special desires of the others in the asylum, or will it be tipped forever towards the mass console market, who knows.  It took years n years for the other sims to develop 'personality', so we'll have to wait n see.  In the mean time it's great to be able to purchase MSFS and see what massive strides happened in the eye candy department.  There is nothing in the engine that obviates not being able to address the needs of the 'serious' simmer, and they're not that far off, so there's hope I feel.

Well, I think this is nothing new and we had anticipated all this in some way. To catch what P3D has accomplished in terms of true flight simulation MFS will still need time. The third-party add-ons have always be an extremely important part of every flightsim platform to the point that no platform could survive without them.

MFS has a lot of potential for sure and represents a tremendous technological advance in terms of scenery representation, but this not the only aspect of flight simulation. Aircraft systems, instruments, modeling, IFR navigation, flight planning, ATC, AI aircraft, all together, represents what true flight simulation is. In my opinion, MFS is simply not currently prepared for all that: in other words, MFS is, and will be for some time, a game, a good one of course, but a game.

In the meantime, we should wait to see what LM still have to offer in terms of Prepar3D's evolution. For sure, these guys will not remain paralyzed, on the contrary, they'll surely show up with many refreshing news.

Flight simulation is having the best years ever and will continue to surprise and please us in the future.

Cheers, Ed

32 minutes ago, JoeFackel said:

Until MSFS comes anything near that P3D does for my kind of flying years will go by. After 3 days of installing (8Mbps here) and getting a first glance i don't see much that impresses me. I'm not an eyecandy guy BTW 😉

Says the guy with ‘tons of add-ons and 3rd party Airports’...

1 hour ago, Doug47 said:

Says the guy with ‘tons of add-ons and 3rd party Airports’...

Yeah, besides the standard ORBX Global/LC stuff are 80% Airports as they are **** in P3D resp. MSFS and on them i spend 25% of my "in-game" time. So what?

The only thing MSFS has an advantage is the low down Scenery stuff, thats for VFR / Helicopter / VR, three things i don't do in the sim. And even the later two are at the moment not happy MSFS campers.

Edited August 21, 20205 yr by JoeFackel

The only amazing part of this theme to me is why some people, upon installing MSFS and seeing the eye candy, immediatley uninstalled P3D.    Installing P3D and everything required to give it 'personality', is such a laborious pain, as I say I'm amazed.

Just finished my 737 IBK3311 EDDH-EKCH with P3DV5 EA and ASP3D and its really nice to be back to basic albeit FTX Germany, Justsim EDDH,OpenLC EU,FT EKCH in 4k 8gb VRAM with Vatsim and it holds.

Only issue was the lag of ASP3D cloud injection. Needs to close and restart ASP3D. 

The time to setup a flight was incredible fast.

Back to MSFS Later....tonight

Edited August 21, 20205 yr by Michael Moe

18 minutes ago, Michael Moe said:

Just finished my 737 IBK3311 EDDH-EKCH with P3DV5 EA and ASP3D and its really nice to be back to basic albeit FTX Germany, Justsim EDDH,OpenLC EU,FT EKCH in 4k 8gb VRAM with Vatsim and it holds.

Only issue was the lag of ASP3D cloud injection. Needs to close and restart ASP3D. 

The time to setup a flight was incredible fast.

Back to MSFS Later....tonight

It is good to see simmers having both P3Dv5 and MSFS and sharing their experiences 👍

AS I said in the MS forum, overall I like it. But to me it is more of a game than a sim. Great graphics and overall performance but I wouldn't think of trying a flight and landing in full instrument conditions. I think MS has great potential and I am positive Asobo will listen to the complaints and address them quickly. I am also positive that LM will not be standing still either. If you have the room and the $$, both are a good idea.People like Girard with full cockpit multi screen setups will be hard pressed to get any benefit out of MSFS.

I think it's a good step in the right direction for simming and look forward to seeing what they can accomplish.

Vic

Well the point is, everyone says I’m not interested in the eye candy in MSFS, despite for years saying they prefer certain sims and add-ons like Orbx for the, you guessed it, eye candy. 
 

Go figure. 

Flings are only safe until you fall in love.   

Great to have VFR and IFR simulators to choose , we are so lucky fellow simmers

Michael Moe

6 hours ago, JoeFackel said:

Until MSFS comes anything near that P3D does for my kind of flying years will go by. After 3 days of installing (8Mbps here) and getting a first glance i don't see much that impresses me. I'm not an eyecandy guy BTW 😉

Try a cross country flight...

C172 G1000

Start in Redding, CA

Climb to 5000 feet, heading West

Fly to O86 - O54 - F62 - D63- O33 - KFOT

and land at each..

Even with Orbx scenery in P3D, you cannot beat that..

6 hours ago, edpatino said:

Flight simulation is having the best years ever and will continue to surprise and please us in the future.

Fully agreed! This is probably the real bottomline!!!

It has been a while since we had so many good options... Kind of minds me the age of Sierra Prop Pilot, Fly!, FS98/2000/2002, Flight Unlimited, X-Plane 7, etc etc etc. 

Let's enjoy the lucky streak!