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9 minutes ago, FlyingInACessna said:

UPDATE: Thing I've noticed with real world winds:

 

When I zoom in on a windsock from afar, it looks elongated and seems to match the reported winds. As soon as I get close to it (maybe within 0.25 nm), it reverts to 3 kts. I wonder if proximity to the winds causes them to die off?

Some people have also mentioned that waves are reacting the strong winds that should be there, but aren't being displayed or felt on the plane.

I took this screenshot yesterday inside Hurricane Laura, I was just getting the usual 3 knot winds, but the waves are clearly not being made by 3 knot winds. So the Data is there, the sim is receiving the data, it's just not for some reason being applied to aircraft.

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3 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

I took this screenshot yesterday inside Hurricane Laura, I was just getting the usualt 3knot winds, but the waves are clearly not being made by 3 knot winds.

Which suggests to me that all the dots are there which make all of this work, it's just that they aren't joined correctly.

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2 minutes ago, DPSimulation said:

Which suggests to me that all the dots are there which make all of this work, it's just that they aren't joined correctly.

Yep... there’s some small issue causing this to all fall apart. 😕

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On 8/26/2020 at 7:10 AM, BackboneOne said:

not working for me. i always keep my active sky open and weather in sim's ATIS is always different from active sky real weather((

Is there a way to keep active sky running Without it popping up dialog boxes about it not being connected?

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On 8/28/2020 at 12:13 PM, JRBarrett said:

Changing servers won’t help. The bug is 100 percent correlated with the geographic location of the aircraft in the simulated world.

I wonder why it is location specific? Does MeteoBlue give the data in a different format for different parts of the world? I'm also curious how MFS is querying this data. If it's JSON over an HTTP connection, it would be possible to intercept this data and modify the formatting to make MFS properly see the winds (assuming that location-specific format is the problem to begin with). If it's HTTPS, that's quite a bit more tricky (but not impossible).

I do wish we knew when this was going to be fixed. If a fix is in the works for an update due in a couple of weeks, then I'd just let it go like Elsa. But if it's going to be a month or two or more, that makes me want to fiddle around to see if I can fix it myself!

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Hmmm, on a flight down the east side of Lake Michigan to Chicago... and suddenly my GS spiked up 10ish knots. Could this be wind? It is flucuating. Interesting. 

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It's working fine here.

It might take few seconds for the weather to load up depending on your internet speed.

 


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58 minutes ago, Keto Ketchup said:

I wonder why it is location specific? Does MeteoBlue give the data in a different format for different parts of the world? I'm also curious how MFS is querying this data. If it's JSON over an HTTP connection, it would be possible to intercept this data and modify the formatting to make MFS properly see the winds (assuming that location-specific format is the problem to begin with). If it's HTTPS, that's quite a bit more tricky (but not impossible).

I do wish we knew when this was going to be fixed. If a fix is in the works for an update due in a couple of weeks, then I'd just let it go like Elsa. But if it's going to be a month or two or more, that makes me want to fiddle around to see if I can fix it myself!

There can be country-specific variations in the way surface weather data is encoded in a METAR report, but the data format for upper winds and temperatures is highly standardized worldwide. Since MeteoBlue is a commercial provider of meteorological data for real-world clients (including aviation), I would think they would use the standard format. The upper wind direction and velocity data is present in the lower and upper level wind layers over the United States on the world map, so I’m confident the data is “there”. I’m reasonably certain that whatever bug is preventing the wind data from being injected into the simulated atmosphere is in the source code of the executable program file, and probably not something that end-users are going to be able to fix. 


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7 hours ago, FlyingInACessna said:

When I zoom in on a windsock from afar, it looks elongated and seems to match the reported winds. As soon as I get close to it (maybe within 0.25 nm), it reverts to 3 kts. I wonder if proximity to the winds causes them to die off?

The problem with the wind sock is that it is only "animated" when you get within 500 meters of it.  This is a setting in one of the files.  The windmills are animated out to over 7000 meters by contrast.  Windsock and Windmills are the only two objects in this particular folder.

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6 hours ago, jpe828 said:

Hmmm, on a flight down the east side of Lake Michigan to Chicago... and suddenly my GS spiked up 10ish knots. Could this be wind? It is flucuating. Interesting. 

That may have been due to a change in the air temperature, which would change your true airspeed.


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6 hours ago, jpe828 said:

Hmmm, on a flight down the east side of Lake Michigan to Chicago... and suddenly my GS spiked up 10ish knots. Could this be wind? It is flucuating. Interesting. 

Something I've noticed flying in the US is that the only time I seem to be getting any actual wind is when I fly from one Meteoblue "cell" to another.  There will be a brief wind from some direction, then the wind reverts to "normal,"  about 6 knots at altitude (as reported by Little Navmap).

Since the wind direction will momentarily be different, it causes wild nose swings in the aircraft.  We'd get the same thing in P3D with Active Sky occasionally.  Active Sky was usually pretty good about smoothing things out.  Meteoblue cells apparently have little or no smoothing, as you can see sudden barometric pressure changes as well.  Temperature changes appear to be smooth.

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19 hours ago, BijanStudio said:

It's working fine here.

It might take few seconds for the weather to load up depending on your internet speed.

 

Does your wind depict properly?


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One thing i do like. If you are flying somewhere with low visibility its going to be like that all the way down the approach. No more clear visibility and seeing the ground from high up and then suddently hitting the soup when you go below 6000ft or so.

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Just landed at KHFD.  Winds 345 at 16.  Clouds and visibility check out.  Altimeter checks out.  I don't think winds aloft are working yet.

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22 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

Some people have also mentioned that waves are reacting the strong winds that should be there, but aren't being displayed or felt on the plane.

I took this screenshot yesterday inside Hurricane Laura, I was just getting the usual 3 knot winds, but the waves are clearly not being made by 3 knot winds. So the Data is there, the sim is receiving the data, it's just not for some reason being applied to aircraft.

wrinzbH.png

This is MSFS 2020...Where did you get that trike  glider? from FSX...

 

Gotta have it...:)

 

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