Loving it, yes there are issues, but these will be sorted out given time... Graphics are amasing my end , so feel sorrry for those that seem to have lost detail.. or did they check their settings??? As the last update changed some.

I am seeing a lot of bitching and crying, and some quite ridiculous statements at times, and just wonder what is their agenda??

 

Edited October 8, 20205 yr by Car147

I think MFS does scenery and weather like I have never experienced before in any flightsim I've used so far.

 

It's by far the most fun I've had in any simulator so far.

Yeah it has it's issues but we should know what the limitations of Flight Sims are by this point. Just check in once a month to see what is fixed or released.

It's a studio with not a great deal of experience who have given new life to a product line we never thought we would see again, it's been out for like 2 months and it's a commercial success.

The future seems bright but you wouldn't think so visiting this forum often. I wouldn't mind but it's not like they have abandoned it, they have a firm commitment to continue to develop.

(Although many people just want to focus on all the ways they might let us down, rather than being pleased we have a fresh entry to the market)

I just want the sim that is the most fun when I finally get the opportunity in my schedule to just sit and enjoy something. MSFS hits the spot every time I load it up.

1 hour ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

So your suggestion is they sack the developers doing scenery and use the money to hire people with flight model experience then once the aircraft are fixed sack the new guys and rehire the scenery guys to carry on with the scenery updates?

You do realise they are totally different skill sets. It is sort of like saying to a restaurant owner "hey all those expensive chefs working on the new menu for the xmas period, get them laying new carpet in the foyer instead, because that is more important".

Wow... you drew all your conclusions from what I did not wrote ...? 

You might clean up your crystal ball .. 🧐

 

Edited October 8, 20205 yr by GSalden

VOR's being switched off... How am I going to fly my DC6? (When we get one).

Seriously there is a love/hate relationship with the title at the moment. When it does things really well, like a glorious night time take off from Hong Kong following a cold and dark start with the (modded) A320 it doesn't get much better. Then you come down to earth when you resume a saved flight, find the FMC has lost your plan and there is no way to reload in flight.

However in pure terms of my gaming time MSFS has dominated since its release. So they must be doing something right.

Here's another thread:

 

Edited October 8, 20205 yr by DJJose

14 minutes ago, Elvensmith said:

However in pure terms of my gaming time MSFS has dominated since its release. So they must be doing something right.

Same here, at least until Cyberpunk 2077 and Vampire: The Masquerade Bloolines 2 come out.

42 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

Same here, at least until Cyberpunk 2077 and Vampire: The Masquerade Bloolines 2 come out.

For me it knocked Elite Dangerous off the radar (my exploration vessel is parked up on the western galactic rim) and replay-throughs of GTA SA and GTA V.

My only concern is that Asobo need to move fairly swiftly to fix the more glaring bugs (like the FMC and AP) - you can already see a tail off in numbers playing, at least the Steam version, which was over 9K maximum concurrent a few days ago but already down to 7K yesterday. Keeping the player base interested with fixes and new interesting content is key to the title's longevity.

Was hesitant at first to get my hands on MSFS but primarily due to my aged hardware but couldn't hold my breath so I got MSFS late August, upgraded just my GPU recently and now I am having a blast. Yes, it is much about visuals but that immersion is a real blast and heck I am just running it at 1600x900 with a more than 10 yrs old i5-2500k ocd to 4ghz and my new MSI 1660 super. Yet I am spoiled already now and do lots of VFR flying by hand, island hopping in Japan is great, set live weather and fly into the sunset. Planes rattle and hum, you almost feel the up and down drifts from mountains or clouds when flying the TBM or Cessnas. Before in FSX I was recently flying only my PMDG 737 (also because VFR flying was not much fun at low altitudes due to bad visuals unless you had gigabyte of additional software installed) but quit that completely some 4-6 years ago when I did not find enough time anymore and when even FSX became laggy and stuttering with the latest hardware and CPU hungry FSDT, ORBX or Aerosoft airports being released. Now I am eagerly waiting for that PMDG iron and will happily do some VFR and eventually IFR flying (once the Garmins and AP functionality was fixed hopefully soon) with the provided aircraft in my deluxe version. Yes, things are buggy but on my end primarily some of the mentioned IFR capabilities in terms of AP, MDF, VNAV, ILS and other topics (like spinning and elevator down trim after active pause was enabled for a longer period >20mins) are affected. By the time PMDG delivers its 737 they will be ironed out for sure. Until then I can fly with decent FPS in great surroundings and places on earth (well, except over Manhattan) with live weather and windows offline ATC without any CTD and stutters. My only wish towards MS is to continue to communicate next steps and what they are working on, last week's development update dated Oct 1 was meaningless and I would rather hear about what they are working on and what will be fixed next. Just my 2 cents.

Edited October 8, 20205 yr by DAD
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14 hours ago, Virtual-Chris said:

It seems if you want a realistic (or even working) experience you need a heavily modified plane, add-on airports, add-on scenery, add-on weather generator, add-on ATC, 3rd party flight planning, and 3rd party log book. 

I guess I’m glad that MS/Asobo have built a frame work to enable this, but from what I’ve read, even that’s not great  

Does Microsoft or Asobo do anything really well?

Admittedly I’m feeling a bit negative at the moment, but it could be because of all the mods and add-ons I need to pile on this Sim to get any sense of realism and even with all that there’s still glaring issues. The whole thing just feels like a kludge. 

Well Virtual Chris, as far as I know no one is holding a gun to your head and telling you that you can only fly MSFS (Yet! The way things are going maybe in 2025😜). Just go back to P3D or X-Plane. I've been flying virtually for 35 years and have or have had every simulator available for the PC, and by far, MSFS is the best thing to happen in our hobby since sliced bread! (Actually, it's better than sliced bread)

Does MSFS do anything really well?

Graphics and scenery (before the latest downgrades).

1 hour ago, Elvensmith said:

you can already see a tail off in numbers playing, at least the Steam version, which was over 9K maximum concurrent a few days ago but already down to 7K yesterday.

I doubt that this decline has much to do with a faulty autopilot or other bugs. You are just seeing a normal dropoff in casual users as they grow bored with playing the game. What would real disturbing is if the Steam numbers fall to the same level as those for XP11. I doubt that will happen as there is so much DLC available for MSFS that users will continue to give the game another look.

But if MS can't graduate a enough casual users into the serious category, the numbers will continue to decline. I'm convinced that if VR is a success in MSFS, Ms has nothing to worry about long term.

It shows you the best Grafik Engine probably you are ever seen in a Flightsimulator..😎

 

regards 😉

 

16 hours ago, Virtual-Chris said:

Does Microsoft or Asobo do anything really well?

The hype

16 hours ago, Virtual-Chris said:

It seems if you want a realistic (or even working) experience you need a heavily modified plane, add-on airports, add-on scenery, add-on weather generator, add-on ATC, 3rd party flight planning, and 3rd party log book. 

Are you sure you are not talking about FSX Steam Edition?

Just for giggles, I reinstalled FS9 and I fired up FSX Steam Edition, both out of the box.  What I found was astonishing.  FS9, which I had considered to be the pinnacle of Flight Simulator was nearly unplayable.  The blurries were in full force, the panels were low resolution and unconvincing.  The weather effects, while great at the time were cartoonish.  FSX, is better, but it really didn't push state of the art for me.  We still have "flattened" airports, unconvincing weather, and on top of that, some water effects which often went from good to horrid due to some questionable color choices.  

FS2020 recreates the real world in a way that no other sim previously has done, which is why you see even "non simmers" standing up and taking notice.  For the first time, I could recognize where I was based on street layout and building placement.  For the first time, I actually experienced fear when flying amongst massive clouds that dwarfed my AC.  The cockpits are nearly photorealistic in their presentation.  I see reflections of my instruments in my windshield, and for the first time, an accurate representation of speed, especially at low altitudes.  

I recently shot two approaches on FS9 and FSX and at 90 knots, it felt like 30.  The sim was running at 60FPS and appeared to be running in mud.  It wasn't slow, performance wise, but slow in it's representation of speed.  FS2020 doesn't have that problem.  

Historically, the strength of MSFS was the ability to alter the product through the use of add-ons.  It was built into the DNA of the product.  And now you use that functionality as a weapon against the product itself.

Let's see.  For $60.00, you get an incredible weather engine, 30,000+ airports, 400 areas represented in photogrammetric detail,  Satellite imagery of the entire planet, and and 20 planes.  And somehow that's "not enough".

But PMDG can offer one plane in fantastic detail for 1.5x that cost and that's more than ok.

Global coverage, access to 2 Petabytes of scenery.  Free global updates of scenery areas all for $60.00.  Perhaps you can't see the forest for all the trees.  

I suggest you load up FSX or FS9 and see what 60 bucks bought you a decade and a half ago  Then come back and answer your somewhat passive aggressive inquiry.