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January 21st, 2021 - Development Update

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20 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

They never had plans for a weather SDK.

They were considering it at some point when everyone complained about 225 @ 3 and demanded 3rd party weather. Guess they decided not to.

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1 hour ago, bean_sprout said:

They should be doing this same sort of thing with Garmin code IMO.

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bs

If they locked that up, we'd be stuck with the awful stock GPS.

As for the Garmin code, I do not believe there is any in the sim. They try to simulate the actions of what the Garmin GPS do, not use the real code. If they used the real code there would be no reason for the GNS430/530 mod, the G1000, 3000, etx. mods.

James

Cant wait for the UK update, bring it on!

Thomas Derbyshire

I'm disappointed to see the Terrain Spikes listed as "Ongoing Improvements" and not "Fixed in UK World Update".

Typically the reserve that tag for things that they can't completely fix for some reason.

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3 hours ago, marsman2020 said:

I'm disappointed to see the Terrain Spikes listed as "Ongoing Improvements" and not "Fixed in UK World Update".

Typically the reserve that tag for things that they can't completely fix for some reason.

They already said they have a fix for it and will be in a future update, so it's possible they just forgot to update the feedback.

Though the scenery spikes referred to here might not be the same ones that appeared in the latest page, but the ones that have existed since launch.

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14 hours ago, marsman2020 said:

I'm disappointed to see the Terrain Spikes listed as "Ongoing Improvements" and not "Fixed in UK World Update".

Typically the reserve that tag for things that they can't completely fix for some reason.

I guess there are two types of spikes... the ones introduced in the December update - I'm pretty sure they're going to be fixed soon, they've confirmed that in an interview or in a forum post, and you can already fix it using a 3rd party add-on.
 

But there've been more spikes from day 1, and they probably aren't as easy to fix, as they're spread out over the whole world in different types of terrain from different sources. This is typically related to mismatching elevation data in the data sets used for different levels of detail, leading to popping in and out of spikes as the LOD changes. This is most prominently seen with many lakes and rivers in arctic regions that sit on top of a plateau or occasionally in a deep valley. Saw this in Norway, north-eastern Canada, and particularly ugly in many parts of Greenland. 

I guess this could by identified and improved, at least partially, in an automated way, it's not too hard for an algorithm to recognise contradictory elevation data in the different LODs. But it's hard to tell how much work is really needed to fix it for good everywhere on Earth, when a range of different terrain mesh datasets from different sources of varying quality and issues is combined. As much as I'd love to see this fixed, I don't think we're getting there anytime soon, and it will likely be "ongoing" for quite a while longer. 

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5 hours ago, pstrub said:

I guess this could by identified and improved, at least partially, in an automated way, it's not too hard for an algorithm to recognise contradictory elevation data in the different LODs. But it's hard to tell how much work is really needed to fix it for good everywhere on Earth, when a range of different terrain mesh datasets from different sources of varying quality and issues is combined. As much as I'd love to see this fixed, I don't think we're getting there anytime soon, and it will likely be "ongoing" for quite a while longer. 

Another thing is that if the problem is in the source data, this proces needs to be repeated everytime that source data is updated. I hope that with time, these automated processes will improve but the problem might not away completely.

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On 1/23/2021 at 9:05 AM, regis9 said:

Yeah they’ve been pretty firm on not opening up the weather system to third party devs for whatever reason.

word not allowed...

 

Well there goes my hopes for Active Sky for this one...

 

Such a shame!

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15 minutes ago, Kilo60 said:

Well there goes my hopes for Active Sky for this one...

Don't give up hope yet. 

The guys at Hifi have ways of getting directly into the running flight sim, which is how they were doing a lot of what they did with previous sims.  They were going to wait until MSFS allowed access via the SDK, but since they're "officially" locked out, they'll likely be getting in unofficially. 🙂 

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Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;

This is what Damian had to say
 

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I’ve no ill will towards MS/Asobo, and I think what they’ve done with weather and depiction is incredible. I wish we could participate with SDK and developer support, but that is no longer in the cards, so we will do the only thing we can, develop without that… in effort to survive, keep the bills paid and food on our tables, keep the dream alive, and deliver to our customers and supporters. As others have including REX and Orbx.

source https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/open-up-the-weather-system-to-3rd-party-devs/266706/201


 

9 hours ago, pstrub said:

Saw this in Norway, north-eastern Canada, and particularly ugly in many parts of Greenland. 

They’ve fixed some of the ones in northern Canada. Resolution Bay airport used to be surrounded by them (I reported this one on zendesk myself), but they’re all gone now as of the last update, so they are working on them. They need bug reports though, people need to tell them exactly where it is happening, coordinates, screenshots etc

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2 hours ago, Kilo60 said:

word not allowed...

Well there goes my hopes for Active Sky for this one...

Wouldn't bet against HiFi. They might not be officially helped in making something, but that's probably not going to stop them.

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49 minutes ago, Chock said:

Wouldn't bet against HiFi. They might not be officially helped in making something, but that's probably not going to stop them.

I really hope not!

Chris Camp

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On 1/24/2021 at 12:56 AM, sidfadc said:

Cant wait for the UK update, bring it on!

As long is not like the last

21 hours ago, arsenal82 said:

As long is not like the last

Hopefully Emirates is in the update, yeah?

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