March 11, 20215 yr Disclaimer: The Man from The Outside, Looking In here: I do not own FS2020 (a.k.a. MFS a.k.a MSFS2020), and do not plan to obtain it. I did spend a lot of time reading the fora, though* (this one and the official one). Depending on your personal preference and party affiliation (Whiners a.k.a. Negativity Spreaders, or White Knights a.k.a. word not allowed EDIT: Interesting: starts with F and ends with bois), you can thus freely choose to argue, with equal justification, ¤ either that therefore I do not know what I am talking about; ¤ or that as a non-partisan outsider with no horse in the race, I may have a more detached and objective view of things. Anyhow, I like Balance, and to restore it in the FS2020 context, I had an idea which I herewith present to the Community for their kind consideration. It goes like this: I buy FS2020, let's say the "Premium Deluxe" variant (purchased directly, not via Game Pass). So I now owe Microsoft/Asobo (MS/A) the sum of USD 120. The payment will be made as follows: I pay 60% (thus USD 72) up front. (Depending on your FS2020 experience, perhaps 50% or 70% may be more appropriate, but it's only about the principle here.) I make an honest commitment that in ten years from now (to be precise: on August 18, 2030) the full sum of USD 120 will have been paid. (With no interest or extra fees, though.) So I still have to pay USD 48. These will be paid according to the following scheme: I shall not pay directly in USD from my bank. Instead, I shall make available "credits" *) which MS/A can download from my website via a special downloader application called "SpecDow". These are small encrypted and securely authenticated files; my bank has my corresponding program which will convert them into equivalent real money which is then transferred to MS/A's account.*) Note: This is not to stoke the hornets' nest of discussion about the "credits" system! It's a mere technical ruse: I cannot control how the bank operates, but I can control how my website operates. When a new batch of credits is available, this will be announced. It will require an updated version of SpecDow (always to be downloaded first, from a different UI). But only a certain (variable and non-predictable) amount of credits will be available per (variable and non-predictable) time period (aiming for once per month, but no guarantees). Sometimes a batch of credits can be obtained and converted to USD without difficulty. Sometimes a batch can be downloaded only at the rate of 0.1 credit/hour. Sometimes the download of a credit will fail completely and/or "loop" (occasionally many times). It may be necessary from time to time to completely uninstall and then re-install the SpecDow application (it's quite big because of my 1.4 GB logo). (It may occasionally seem that even re-installing Windows 10 from scratch is necessary, but that's a bit of a myth.) When attempting to convert downloaded credits to real dollars, quite a few of those credits may turn out to be broken in various (variable and non-predictable) ways, e.g. mis-coded encryption, or a faulty authentication part. Some credits may work, but cause the SpecDow application to slow down, sometimes considerably so (e.g. no more than .001 credit/h). Any of the above may depend on which specific computer with what specific hardware/software configuration MS/A is using to obtain credits. Some machines may work flawlessly while others, working on the same batch, may not. In the case of difficulties as above, I shall in due course (say after 4-6 weeks) offer an update to the SpecDow application to fix things. (Hotfixes, within 2-3 weeks, only in special cases.) These updates then may or may not fix the issue under consideration. They also may or may not revert, or indeed nullify, previous features and/or earlier update fixes. But, to re-iterate: On August 18, 2030, the full payment of USD 120 will have been made! (This is not a scheme designed to shirk or even to merely reduce the amount paid. Eventually.) What do you think? (I'm hoping to see opinions split along the same lines of Whiners ("Payment system doesn't work! Unusable!") vs. White Knights ("Be patient, it's a brand-new scheme! Give it a year or four, and almost all money will have been paid!") as mentioned above, but will myself refrain from any further comments. It would not do for an outsider.) Cheers!🙃 * Having flightsimmed since Bruce Artwick on the Apple ][, one does have an interest to see down which hole the rabbit is running these days. Edited March 11, 20215 yr by TheFiddler typos, astonishment at "word not allowed"
March 11, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, TheFiddler said: "... What do you think?..." 1) overly verbose 2) unnecessarily pedantic 3) pretentiously erudite 4) gaudy rather than succinctly eloquent i7-12700K; GF RTX 3080Ti 12 GB; MSI Z690 MB; 32 GB DDR5 4800Mhz (16x2); 850W 80+ Gold PS; 1 TB M.2 NVMe SSD + 2 TB HDD @ 7200 + Kingston 4TB XS2000 USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 Ext. SSD (for MSFS & all games); 240 mm liquid cooler; LG 32UD59-B 32" UHD 4K; Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS stick; wired conn. to rtr. (500 Mbps); W11 Pro
March 11, 20215 yr I will gladly pay you Tuesday, for a hamburger today. I9-13900kf - rtx4090 32gb ddr5 4800mhz, 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD internet - 300+ mbs / Honycomb Alpha yoke / Saitek Throttle Dell 43” 4K
March 11, 20215 yr Commercial Member I am fascinated by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Luke Kolin I make simFDR, the most advanced flight data recorder for FSX, Prepar3D and X-Plane.
March 11, 20215 yr . Edited March 11, 20215 yr by WingZ Post modified as it was getting too long. Go on, give it a Like
March 11, 20215 yr 6 hours ago, RustyFlyer said: 1) overly verbose 2) unnecessarily pedantic 3) pretentiously erudite 4) gaudy rather than succinctly eloquent And these are just the good points. 🤣 Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
March 11, 20215 yr The Fiddler. With ideas like this, you are probably better off remaining an outsider. Tony Tony Chilcott. My System. Motherboard. ASRock Taichi X570 CPU Ryzen 9 3900x (not yet overclocked). RAM 32gb Corsair Vengeance (2x16) 3200mhz. 1 x Gigabyte Aorus GTX1080ti Extreme and a 1200watt PSU. 1 x 1tb SSD 3 x 240BG SSD and 4 x 2TB HDD OS Win 10 Pro 64bit. Simulators ... FS2004/P3Dv4.5/Xplane.DCS/Aeroflyfs2...MSFS to come for sure.
March 11, 20215 yr 8 hours ago, FlyBaby said: Don't do it folks...move along. Looks all right to me. I chuckled heartily. I'd say if a person can't laugh at this... Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
March 11, 20215 yr The original post is like one of those click bait YouTube videos where the "Click to Subscribe" button is gigantic and keeps flashing throughout the entire video.
March 12, 20215 yr Geez, and that whole text you wrote is in the end all about YOU not being able to get over the price of 120 dollar for the premium version right? I'd say it is ridiculous.....unless your name is Scrooge. MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Plus | Intel Core i9-10900K @ 5.3GHz | 64GB Corsair Vengeance | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3090 | 500 GB M.2 NVMe for win | 2TB M.2 NVMe for FS2024 | TrackIr v5 | Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo | Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog Eric from EHAM, a flying Dutchman.
March 12, 20215 yr I anyone who has the time to write something like that needs to get out more. Intel 10700K @ 5.1Ghz, Asus Hero Maximus motherboard, Noctua NH-U12A cooler, Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB 3200 MHz RAM, RTX 2060 Super GPU, Cooler Master HAF 932 Tower, Thermaltake 1000W Toughpower PSU, Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit, 100TB of disk storage. Klaatu barada nickto.
March 12, 20215 yr The ironic thing is, the sim pretty much already has this system anyway, just not with a convoluted way of doing it: You rent it with a Gamepass, if it sucks you don't play it and give up paying for a Gamepass and no onger rent it, or you buy it, but if you don't like the DLC, you don't buy that stuff. Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
March 12, 20215 yr 48 minutes ago, Chock said: The ironic thing is, the sim pretty much already has this system anyway, just not with a convoluted way of doing it: You rent it with a Gamepass, if it sucks you don't play it and give up paying for a Gamepass and no onger rent it, or you buy it, but if you don't like the DLC, you don't buy that stuff. I really don't understand why you state in only three lines what you could otherwise state in 3 pages! i7-12700K; GF RTX 3080Ti 12 GB; MSI Z690 MB; 32 GB DDR5 4800Mhz (16x2); 850W 80+ Gold PS; 1 TB M.2 NVMe SSD + 2 TB HDD @ 7200 + Kingston 4TB XS2000 USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 Ext. SSD (for MSFS & all games); 240 mm liquid cooler; LG 32UD59-B 32" UHD 4K; Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS stick; wired conn. to rtr. (500 Mbps); W11 Pro
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