42 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

but, good Heavens, to think that I will now share my hobby with her followers, that does frighten me indeed 🤣

I'm from the demographic that's part of her core audience, and I absolutely can't stand that lady. I don't hate her, but that personality is just plain superfluous. Maybe it's a YouTube thing.

So don't be too hesitant on passing us the torch 😂

37 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Two technical people where I work told me they "tried" MSFS 2020 recently. They flew around for a week or two, got bored with it, and  that was that. They moved on to a more "exciting" game. They both said that sitting at their computer screen watching scenery go slowly by, wasn't that interesting to them. 

Ha, regular flights can get VERY exciting. I flew in aTBM and about 20nm from my destination a complete electical failure triggered through a program I use. That means NO instruments beside the compass at all since the TBM has no backups. 

Also you cannot deploy the gear and the flaps, because it is all electrical. So I had to find my airport in the middle of some mexican mountains by sight only and do a belly landing without flaps and without even knowing my altitude and speed. This also was at about 7k feet elevation. 

Naturally I was way to fast, overshot the runway and luckily he thin trees i slid into didn't trigger a crash, since all crash setting were enabled. And this all in VR. I also had an ONAIR load that was fragile, so I needed to land as smoothly as possible and not bank too hard, so very wide turns. 

 

Edited March 25, 20215 yr by kakihara123

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Edited March 25, 20215 yr by kakihara123

2 hours ago, Carts85 said:

 Once the novelty wears off the majority move to the new next big thing,  

MS is designing a secret weapon  to keep the new flyers hooked on MFS. Boobs.  Lotsa boobs, passengers, stewards, pilots. Of course, everything very decent and of good taste, this a game for all audiences but well... boobs. P3D and X-plane will be devastated.

 

Edited March 25, 20215 yr by Dominique_K

15 minutes ago, Will Fly For Cheese said:

Pa - what?

Oh. Autocorrect on the phone.

Let me try once again. 

Pathetic.

1 hour ago, Will Fly For Cheese said:

That'll come to be the standard Xboxer's reaction too.

I agree. MFS would not lend itself to Xbox & Xbox controllers the same way that Microsoft Flight otherwise did. The Microsoft Flight platform was a different type of computer-flying experience and it was targeted to an entirely different audience than that which visits this site. (Yes, I know there is a small part of the AVSIM forum dedicated to the MF platform.) And even though Flight, with its 'chase-the-gold-coins' types of activities, was aimed at the more casual flight simmer, it did not make it. (I have been going to great lengths to avoid using the A word to describe the kind of platform Flight was ;;) ). Flying a complex aircraft (including G.A.) and utilizing the FMS and the many other [programmable] systems of a complex aircraft are infinitely more difficult tasks, and require significantly more jumping-through-hoops, when using a controller as opposed to a keyboard. Chase gold coins and catch things with an airplane via an Xbox controller? Sure. Fly an airliner or complex G.A. aircraft utilizing a controller? Not so sure.

Perhaps MS/A will [continue to] try to target both audiences. Those who straddle fences, though, tend to end up with the fence you-know-where: right where it belongs.

Edited March 25, 20215 yr by RustyFlyer

16 hours ago, kiwikat said:

We are paying customers who want to know why we can't use the product we paid for and when it will be made so we can use it again.

Some of you are calmly asking that question. In the aggregate you're an angry mob throwing rocks.

I saw some goober on the MSFS Instagram the other day demand a hotfix for the stuttering problem with all the verbiage used by a 5-year-old stamping his foot and demanding candy. And that particular fool also wanted MS to fix something that isn't working right in FSX. I mean, seriously? Fix a long-abandoned sim that came out 15 years ago and has been replaced by five versions of P3d? Heck, while we're at it maybe I should howl angrily at Atari for never finishing the Swordquest line that they promised they'd finish when I bought Earthworld in 1983.

All that idiocy aside, you already know why you can't use the product. There's a bug. Asobo has already told you it's working on a fix. That's all you need to know. If there's a safety recall on your car that doesn't yet have a fix, you get told "X part could break and cause Y problem. Park it until we fix it." Then when a fix comes out you just get told "bring it to the dealership and they will do X to the part."  You don't get daily engineering updates just as you're not going to get daily coding updates from Asobo because that would be a foolish waste of time for everyone. 

And they're not going to tell you "when it will be made so we can use it again," because they don't know either. If a fix is in beta right now then they hope it will be released on a certain day, but if the beta turns up bugs then they have more work to do and it won't be released then. The answer will always be "as soon as we are able to fix it." 

The vast majority of us posting here have alternate methods of entertainment. I'm flying P3d and DCS while I wait for MSFS to be fixed. It's just not that big of a deal. Yeah, it's annoying, but screaming at Asobo isn't going to help anything.

 

 

Edited March 25, 20215 yr by eslader

It's funny reading the similarities of Flight simmers reactions to the upcoming Xbox version, the exact same reaction was met by race simmers when ACC (amongst others) ported to the consoles.

Essentially a lot of high & mighty holier than thou NONSENSE from the PC crowd all being very derogative towards console users, times have changed and it's time you all jumped down from your ivory towers and grew the WORD NOT ALLOWED up quite frankly!

I like the boobs idea.  I'll forgive everybody lol

LouP

3 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

Truth is we need a  Bureau of Sabotage (the Frank Herbert’s fans will understand) to break this frenzy 😆 .

I was thinking of a celebrity spokeperson like Joe Namath (taken) or Tom Selleck (taken) to champion our cause. Might be better to go with a European. I hear Renaldo is being asked to take a pay cut, maybe he could use a second job?

1 hour ago, MarcG said:

It's funny reading the similarities of Flight simmers reactions to the upcoming Xbox version, the exact same reaction was met by race simmers when ACC (amongst others) ported to the consoles.

Essentially a lot of high & mighty holier than thou NONSENSE from the PC crowd all being very derogative towards console users, times have changed and it's time you all jumped down from your ivory towers and grew the WORD NOT ALLOWED up quite frankly!

There's nothing high and mighty, or righteous, here, certainly not on this end ;;). It is simply a fact that it is infinitely more complicated, mechanically, to program a FMS and to utilize/operate a complex aircraft via controller. There is no value-judgement.

(Avid Assetto Corsa, Project Cars, Euro Truck Simulator, F1, PGA Tour 2K21 (and many others) player here- all of which lend themselves wonderfully to consoles and to controllers ;;).)

Edited March 25, 20215 yr by RustyFlyer

13 minutes ago, eslader said:

The vast majority of us posting here have alternate methods of entertainment. I'm flying P3d and DCS while I wait for MSFS to be fixed. It's just not that big of a deal. Yeah, it's annoying, but screaming at Asobo isn't going to help anything.

 

 

Seriously! I'd like 2020 to get fixed as much as the next simmer but it's ultimately a little corner of the big picture, isn't it? 

4 hours ago, RobF2 said:

Ahh, #$@#. 

This thread title had me all excited Asobo had put a fix out!  😞

I am sorry for that - but for shure the fix will come; the question is in what time frame..

cheers 😉

1 hour ago, Dominique_K said:

MFS is designing a secret weapon  to keep the new flyers hooked on MFS. Boobs.  Lotsa boobs, passengers, stewards, pilots. Of course, everything very decent and of good taste, this a game for all audiences but well... boobs. P3D and X-plane will be devastated.

 

Type 58008 into a calculator...  turn it upside-down...  There you go...  Keeps me happy!

25 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

Type 58008 into a calculator...  turn it upside-down...  There you go...  Keeps me happy!

6045508

We were so proud of ourselves when we discovered that one...