4 hours ago, highflyer2020 said:

I agree as well but I suspect for the 90% of simmers FBW will suit their needs for replicating a typical commercial flight from a to b.

FSL will be useful for when you want to simulate failures etc.

FS Labs is for practice for the RWP. No die hard simmer knows what exactly what they are doing outside of programming the FMC/MCDU and hitting autopilot. Failures lets see Chewwy execute one like the RWP' do it would be commical. Its all for entertainment just like its labeled on the FS Labs main page. FS Labs is top notch but lets not act like the diehard simmer can really make use of this software without multiple user epic  failures.

Edited May 28, 20215 yr by jbdbow1970

I’m gonna stand in with my opinion as a regular user of PMDGs products for FSX: since the existence of a market place, my leaning is heavily leaning towards buying it directly in the marketplace. And yes, even if PMDG takes months to release their aircraft in the marketplace after they release it on their website, I will happily sit and wait.

As a previous poster had written, I’m sick of manually keeping track of updates, version numbers, etc.; I’d much rather let a centralized automated system do that work for me.

13 hours ago, amahran said:

I’m gonna stand in with my opinion as a regular user of PMDGs products for FSX: since the existence of a market place, my leaning is heavily leaning towards buying it directly in the marketplace. And yes, even if PMDG takes months to release their aircraft in the marketplace after they release it on their website, I will happily sit and wait.

As a previous poster had written, I’m sick of manually keeping track of updates, version numbers, etc.; I’d much rather let a centralized automated system do that work for me.

And once it makes it into the Market Place, after all the people have bought it from their website which choose too. In the long run, I think the Market Place will out perform their own website. Of course ONLY PMDG will know that information, and probably would NEVER share it. Their are a ton of new simmers buying MSFS and will in the future. They could give a rats about a developers website, except maybe support, and X-Box has to buy from Market Place, right?

In the very far out future, 1-3 years, maybe more, MS/Asobo and the 3rd party developers could end up making a TON of money. Think Apple and Google app stores! And you can side load apps on Android, or buy from Google Play. What do you think most people do? Especially the new younger simmers!  Actually recently old timers here have show interest, in the Market Place!

So 30%-50% commission VS users that find it too hard to check their email for updates?  Outrageous. Seriously. This includes simmarket and other marketplaces as well.

+1000000 for buying in developers websites, THEY deserve this money for their hard work, and not Microsoft just to get an update 6 months late, neither other marketplaces which mostly saves the user 1-2 minutes of "work" (i.e. download and extract a folder) + ton of pointless marketing + it'll cost more + bigger chance for bad support...

Edited May 29, 20215 yr by akita

1 hour ago, akita said:

So 30%-50% commission VS users that find it too hard to check their email for updates?  Outrageous. Seriously. This includes simmarket and other marketplaces as well.

+1000000 for buying in developers websites, THEY deserve this money for their hard work, and not Microsoft just to get an update 6 months late, neither other marketplaces which mostly saves the user 1-2 minutes of "work" (i.e. download and extract a folder) + ton of pointless marketing + it'll cost more + bigger chance for bad support...

Good lucking selling via websites on the Xbox. Moreover, if it would not be for Microsoft/Asobo, MSFS would not exist. How do you think the scenery streaming and world updates are subsidized if not through monetization schemes like the integrated marketplace? 

1 hour ago, akita said:

So 30%-50% commission VS users that find it too hard to check their email for updates?  Outrageous. Seriously. This includes simmarket and other marketplaces as well.

+1000000 for buying in developers websites, THEY deserve this money for their hard work, and not Microsoft just to get an update 6 months late, neither other marketplaces which mostly saves the user 1-2 minutes of "work" (i.e. download and extract a folder) + ton of pointless marketing + it'll cost more + bigger chance for bad support...

The world has moved on since 2008 era of simming. 

Every software I have owned in the last 5 years will auto update it self, I don't need to check or want to check my emails and manually update something! 

3 hours ago, akita said:

So 30%-50% commission VS users that find it too hard to check their email for updates?  Outrageous. Seriously. This includes simmarket and other marketplaces as well.

I think the developers know what they are doing. Also, they will appreciate people like you that will buy the add-ons directly on their sites. But calling it outrageous... come on!

Giving costumers multiple options to acquire and keep the add-ons is a good move.

On 5/26/2021 at 5:48 PM, sd_flyer said:

And did you read my question? If you can't answer I suggest to move on.

Yes, I did whereas you evidently did not even read what was posted...

7 minutes ago, Mgard78 said:

Yes, I did whereas you evidently did not even read what was posted...

Just in case you were not aware "move on" means "let it go". And good morning to couple weeks ago 🙂

I wonder if it is possible to fly an ILS or IFR with GPS in the DC6. 

7 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I wonder if it is possible to fly an ILS or IFR with GPS in the DC6. 

PMDG has said they are using the default garmin unit, and that means that as long as the navblue database has the ils info in it, you will be able to fly a gps route including the ils waypoints. 

Edited June 9, 20215 yr by Andreas Stangenes

1 minute ago, Andreas Stangenes said:

PMDG has said they are using the default garmin unit, and that means that as long as the navblue database has the ils info in it, you will be able to fly a gps route including the procedure just like you would in any other ga plane. 

That's great, thanks. 

 

On 5/29/2021 at 6:58 AM, highflyer2020 said:

The world has moved on since 2008 era of simming. 

Every software I have owned in the last 5 years will auto update it self, I don't need to check or want to check my emails and manually update something! 

And the broad appeal will pay for itself despite having to hand over some percentage to Microsoft.

Carenado was one of the first to figure this out.  There is no way he would have moved as many sales as they did if it just kept their planes for sale on their own website.  MSFS isn't just being used by diehard simmers anymore. It's a mass marketed machine at this point. Having your wares on the in game marketplace is a cash cow and probably far more profitable then only selling them tucked away in some random corner of the internet people will only know about if they go out looking

Edited June 9, 20215 yr by styckx

On 5/29/2021 at 5:31 AM, akita said:

So 30%-50% commission VS users that find it too hard to check their email for updates?  Outrageous. Seriously. This includes simmarket and other marketplaces as well.

+1000000 for buying in developers websites, THEY deserve this money for their hard work, and not Microsoft just to get an update 6 months late, neither other marketplaces which mostly saves the user 1-2 minutes of "work" (i.e. download and extract a folder) + ton of pointless marketing + it'll cost more + bigger chance for bad support...

Not to mention everything on Marketplace is encrypted. 

 

26 minutes ago, styckx said:

And the broad appeal will pay for itself despite having to hand over some percentage to Microsoft.

Carenado was one of the first to figure this out.  There is no way he would have moved as many sales as they did if it just kept their planes for sale on their own website.  MSFS isn't just being used by diehard simmers anymore. It's a mass marketed machine at this point. Having your wares on the in game marketplace is a cash cow and probably far more profitable then only selling them tucked away in some random corner of the internet people will only know about if they go out looking

Why, thank you. You saved me some typing because I was going to chime in with this. Spot on.