2 hours ago, ca_metal said:

Being on the  marketplace, makes it very plausible. People wishing to pair this plane with an Yoke + Throttle quadrant will be well served in the console with the honeycomb peripherals.

Honeycomb Aeronautical Reveals New Controls, Xbox Support and More – FSElite

For the homecockpit guys, a gaming console makes no sense, anyways.

I would love to have the Tango Foxtrot Throttle individually.

 

 

1 hour ago, Chock said:

If anyone really thought that, then they mustn't have been paying much attention for the past four years. Initially PMDG's boss was against the idea of a central sim-based store, but he is on record as having changed his tune about it way back in late 2017 when Flight Sim World's developers were mooting the possibility, at which time PMDG's boss expressed his support for Dovetail in trying tp develop the sim. Thus the notion of PMDG being amenable to the idea of selling through a central resource point is not exactly a new, nor is it a shocking concept.

Actually that's not true. I remember PMDG refused to sell their products on Steam and that pretty much killed the chances to have a PMDG on FSW. Here the actual Randazzo words:

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For a period we were in fairly regular communication with DTG regarding their plans and progress, but that communication dried up shortly after we declined to offer our product line via the DTG controlled Steam channel for FSX-Steam Edition, and we haven't really heard much of anything from them since that time.  We received a few email announcing staff changes, but we received no replies to our ongoing outreach effort, so at the moment when I look at the planning board for the next year, I see only a question mark next to the DTG platform.

Source: PMDG's Official Position on DTG's: FSW, pending P3D update, etc... - PMDG General Forum - The AVSIM Community

More insight in here also: [07MAY17] The sorts of behaviors that cause me concern... - PMDG General Forum - The AVSIM Community

They were against releasing their products on the Steam Marketplace. But it's water under the bridge. FSW is dead and we already moved on, including PMDG.

Edited May 26, 20215 yr by ca_metal

20 minutes ago, ca_metal said:

Actually that's not true. I remember PMDG refused to sell their products on Steam and that pretty much killed the chances to have a PMDG on FSW. Here the actual Randazzo words

Except that he later amended that which you quoted and subsequently said he was in support of it (which is what I was referring to), but by that time it was only a matter of weeks before the plug was pulled on FSW. Not that it really matters other than to point out that saying PMDG has only recently decided selling in a central marketplace is in fact not correct. And to be honest, it is the only pragmatic decision any TPC company could make at this point, although the flexibility of selling through your own locale is something it is wise to do too, which is why most have gone that dual route.

 

Edited May 27, 20215 yr by Chock

Are they going to sell all their product in marketplace exclusively? Or they are going to sell from their web store and in addition from marketplace?

35 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Are they going to sell all their product in marketplace exclusively? Or they are going to sell from their web store and in addition from marketplace?

Did you not read *anything* in this thread..?

7 minutes ago, Mgard78 said:

Did you not read *anything* in this thread..?

And did you read my question? If you can't answer I suggest to move on.

I pretty much only use the marketplace for Carenado and the odd $10 airfield from an obscure developer.

If an aircraft is available from Orbx or Just Flight I will get  it there to simplify updating, and otherwise I buy them direct.

My reasoning:

• many of my aircraft (the P149 and the JF Arrow are two examples) have never made it to the marketplace
• marketplace updates are delayed sometimes substantially
• the marketplace "cut" taken by MS is allegedly between 30 and 50% and I prefer this money go to the developer
• depending on exchange rates and special deals the aircraft are often cheaper direct
• the aircraft once installed are not encrypted and can be managed with addon linker rather than the annoying content manager

Bringing it to marketplace on a delay is probably a smart move for PMDG - gets that core audience of early adopters to pay PMDG directly, and then you can approach a broader audience after a few months in the marketplace, with a more stable product by that point to boot.

Unless a ton of people have been converted to marketplace-only users for the convenience, it'll probably pay off for them.

There are many popular publishers that wait some time before releasing their games on Steam and they do that precisely to avoid paying that 30% fee because they know sales will be strong regardless.

PMDG is the Rockstar of flight simulation, so their decision is totally reasonable. The delay is also more or less similar to the expected Xbox release, therefore this strategy makes sense on different fronts.

Edited May 27, 20215 yr by GCBraun

3 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

Are they going to sell all their product in marketplace exclusively? Or they are going to sell from their web store and in addition from marketplace?

No, on both the PMDG website first and probably some time after that ( maybe weeks or many month's ) before it makes it to the Market Place. PMDG knows there is a demand for their product, so ALL of the initial sales of every aircraft will be direct from their website I would imagine for many month's. I think to them Market Place is huge sales to people who a) aren't familiar with PMDG yet b) will only buy from Market Place C) maybe just maybe, they might put an item on sale in the Market Place d) what's wrong with some extra cash even if it is with a little less profit.

And stop with the percentage 30%-50% , 70%, 80% what ever you randomly choose! They all know the percentage ahead of time when they sign a contract with with MS/Asobo. I want the developer and MS/Asobo to get a cut! And that's my Choice! I also would guess, have no clue, some companies are able to negotiate better terms. I actually hope it is the same for everyone, but doubt it!

You people must go to farms to buy your vegetables instead of the grocery store, so the farmer get's all the profit 🙂 

1 hour ago, in2tech said:

 

You people must go to farms to buy your vegetables instead of the grocery store, so the farmer get's all the profit 🙂 

Actually we do most of the time.

Or at least direct from the farmers at a local farmers market 😄  Though mainly because the produce is nicer.

Edited May 27, 20215 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

22 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

Actually we do most of the time.

Or at least direct from the farmers at a local farmers market 😄  Though mainly because the produce is nicer.

Knew that example was gonna bit me in the rear of the building ( had to avoid being censored ) 🙂 Good for you! But most do not!

Edited May 27, 20215 yr by in2tech

6 hours ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

the marketplace "cut" taken by MS is allegedly between 30 and 50% and I prefer this money go to the developer

I used to feel the same but now I think MS taking a cut will help keep the servers running and salaries paid at Asobo so there’s some justification for shopping from the marketplace.

I think this is the MS market place, and in the latest update notes Documentation.

• Creation of an Xbox X|S dedicated page in the documentation, which gathers the latest info & best practices to port content on Xbox.

Decisions Decisions, I still haven't made up my mind where I'll purchase my PMDG aircraft when the time comes even if it means waiting for the choice of market, and then if FSL ever release an aircraft for MSFS is even more complex a decision for obvious reasons.