3 hours ago, Murmur said:

Of course his statement is valid: there was nothing new to see in the scenery because the preview is XP11. 🤦‍♂️

I'm saying that the statement quoted by Janov is valid, not that Janovs "statement" is wrong.

The same people getting all worked up over a 35 second video of a default Airbus in X-Plane.

Incredible!  

Still waiting for the others who haven't joined us yet.  It's getting to be so predictable, I'm going to start giving odds on who comes in and when they come in.

Edited July 5, 20214 yr by GoranM

59 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

The preview does tell us much about the new fleet. 10 seconds seems a bit daft if it's meant to impress us. So are the new planes going to be study level? Or what sort of level of sophistication can we expect?

New planes were probably donated from 3rd party guys and will have basic functionality only.

1 hour ago, jarmstro said:

So are the new planes going to be study level? Or what sort of level of sophistication can we expect?

I don't think any of the current default planes could be considered study level and this will likely be the same for the next XP version.
Frankly it would be a bit too much to ask in my opinion
 

7 hours ago, Janov said:

The question is: Why don´t jets suffer torque? They also (especially high bypass) impart the same force on the airstream that a propeller would, or don´t they? Is the high-pressure turbine working in the opposite direction? Wouldn´t that be the same way in a turboprop?

Well, if the spoolup and resulting slight wingtip dipping from the 35:20 mark in this video is anything to go by, spool aceleration does produce a bit of torque in jet engines:

 

Mind that the engine is buried in the airframe centerline and the landing gear is rather soft. I figure on a 777, you would rather have to watch for the nacelle moving instead of everything else as the pylons are the structural parts having to bear any torque effects.

1 hour ago, Greazer said:

New planes were probably donated from 3rd party guys and will have basic functionality only.

A ten second video previewing a donated plane. Surely not?

27 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

A ten second video previewing a donated plane. Surely not?

Of all things what is it? A plane. I would actually hope they didn't invest one hour of dev/artist time in this when it should have been spent on the obvious and pressing issues (which NOONE will claim the PLANES to be).

Words fail me on the ignorance of some comments and the cluelessness of how a software developer company works.

People who design flight models or aircraft HAVE NOT THE SKILLS of people who design the scenery system or the lighting, and viceversa. So it's not that you can take them away from developing a plane, and send them to develop scenery or environmental effects...

It's a bit like when people were saying "LR shouldn't waste resources on the mobile version, just focus on the desktop version!", when actually the mobile versione was GIVING LR resources to develop the desktop version...

6 hours ago, Bjoern said:

Well, if the spoolup and resulting slight wingtip dipping from the 35:20 mark in this video is anything to go by, spool aceleration does produce a bit of torque in jet engines:

That should be correct, spool acceleration or deceleration should produce torque in a jet engine as well. Probably less strong than the constant torque in a propelled powerplant though.

5 hours ago, Murmur said:

Words fail me on the ignorance of some comments and the cluelessness of how a software developer company works.

I'd like to believe they know a little more than the obvious.  And I did believe that for quite a while.  I thought they just make these comments after saying to their friends, "Watch how I trigger these guys!", while knowing exactly how this stuff gets done...but maybe they really just don't have any clue.  Maybe they don't know there is a scenery department.  An Aircraft department.  A coding department.  

🤷‍♂️

1 hour ago, GoranM said:

I'd like to believe they know a little more than the obvious.  And I did believe that for quite a while.  I thought they just make these comments after saying to their friends, "Watch how I trigger these guys!", while knowing exactly how this stuff gets done...but maybe they really just don't have any clue.  Maybe they don't know there is a scenery department.  An Aircraft department.  A coding department.  

🤷‍♂️

Its very easy to assume everyone knows the same stuff as you, its even easier to ridicule them for not knowing as much as you.

Either makes you the one in the wrong.

Also, Am I the only one who noticed the displays were turned off in the cockpit? THE most important part of any aircraft/fleet update and all we got was a fuselage model flying with a cold and dark cockpit. How can you not be at least a little disappointed.

 

Edited July 6, 20214 yr by mSparks

4 minutes ago, mSparks said:

Its very easy to assume everyone knows the same stuff as you

I didn't.  I assumed they know scenery developers don't make aircraft.  Coders don't model 3D mesh.  Modellers don't code the lighting engine.  Texturers don't make flight models.

That'd be obvious to pretty much anyone who's been in the flight sim world for even a couple of months.  Least of all, people who are regular posters in avsim who have been here for more than long enough.

7 minutes ago, mSparks said:

its even easier to ridicule them for not knowing as much as you.

When did I do this???

22 minutes ago, GoranM said:

That'd be obvious to pretty much anyone who's been in the flight sim world for even a couple of months.

except LR core team is basically 10 or 15 people, with a team that small there are always sacrifices to be made, and everyone has to do a bit of everything.

They also only have 2 or 3 people that specialise in aircraft dev (Philipp and a couple of others who are even less active in the community)... apparently doing an A330.

Probably not a good idea to expect much.

22 minutes ago, GoranM said:

When did I do this???

Implying its obvious that 2 or 3 people can bring a high quality A330 to xplane and they are just trying to trigger you for being of the opinion LR probably could have put that resource to better use.

I'd love to believe they can. But you clearly know something we dont.

Edited July 6, 20214 yr by mSparks

2 minutes ago, mSparks said:

But you clearly know something we dont.

Considering one of the people who has been employed by LR  since 2014, and worked with me since 2011, up to as recently as this year on the Saab update, I'd say that's true.  He hasn't told me everything, but he's told me what he was allowed to tell me.

 

Let's just leave it at that.

 

 

9 minutes ago, GoranM said:

Let's just leave it at that.

Slightly reassuring,

But as with MSFS, I'll believe it when I see it.

And right now their A330 does not seem to have a working cockpit. So probably nice cut those who don't have insider knowledge a little slack.