The Cloud concept is troubling especially when it can all change on the whim of Big Tech. When the plug is pulled it won't be like it was with FS9/FSX where we had our own working copy to keep enjoying the sim.

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I said on another thread.

Xbox X costs less than any of those over priced Series 30 Nvidia GPU`s that have gone to market againts the most basic anti-trust laws and regulations by the act of corrupt criminals. We need to call things by their name.

And per Microsoft, Xbox-X will run MSFS EXACTLY as the PC with the same yoke, pedals, controlls, etc etc at max frame rate smoothly..... So why do we worry so much about the past?

Maybe (and there is a big assumption here) it is time to use the PC for productive work and shift the sumulation hobby to something good that is not manipulated wrongfully. The X-Box-X.

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16 minutes ago, ThrottleUp said:

All the while talking to each other. Truly it would be a Second Life. 

The ultimate virtual vacation 

24 minutes ago, Dillon said:

The Cloud concept is troubling especially when it can all change on the whim of Big Tech. When the plug is pulled it won't be like it was with FS9/FSX where we had our own working copy to keep enjoying the sim.

Yeah I felt the same way for a long time ever since Steam started up.  My teenage Son in the late 90's, said "Dad, you've got nothing to fear," and then went on to tell how much cheaper the games on Steam were compared to the boxed versions, the ease at which multiple devices can be used, the multiplayer opportunities and of course the fact you own your copy of the software and it's always there whenever and wherever you are in the world, (I used to fly a lot)  to be played or downloaded again on your device if needed.  Still I was skeptical. But my Son was right. I have a couple small programs that I trialled way back then and and I still have them on Steam!!    Since then, in business, I have now seen the possibilities, the creative opportunities and the depth of realism and reach, not to mention the hardware improvements and processing speed improvements that cloud based products bring, I'm now prepared to take the risk with cloud based anything. Although I do note that  MSFS can be played offline, I think it loses some of its data rich environment!.

 

So yes, MS could just one day say,  "MSFS? Yea, Nah. We're bringing the curtain down on that!!".  But I figure I'll have a pretty good ride for money before that day happens and if does, what amazing things will then be available to replace it!!  Nothing lasts for ever and why would we want it to if meant we had no opportunity to advance. So Dillion, as my Son said to me and he has been proved so right...you have nothing to fear. 

 

Cheers

 

Terry  

 

 

48 minutes ago, Dillon said:

The Cloud concept is troubling especially when it can all change on the whim of Big Tech. When the plug is pulled it won't be like it was with FS9/FSX where we had our own working copy to keep enjoying the sim.

Almost everything now run in the cloud, I really dont have much installed stuff and I just use chrome for Google docs, Microsoft 365, even I am coding directly on the cloud ide .. etc. This is the future, we gotta embrace that and adopt to it. 

 

17 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

Almost everything now run in the cloud, I really dont have much installed stuff and I just use chrome for Google docs, Microsoft 365, even I am coding directly on the cloud ide .. etc. This is the future, we gotta embrace that and adopt to it. 

 

Think for a second a world controlled by three companies (Microsoft, Amazon, and Google).  Governments and all willingly putting all their data on these three private company's servers.  Who's ruling the world at that point?  The whole concept is dangerous yet people are steadily driving into that train wreak with the belief honesty and no manipulation will be at play.  Back to gaming, Fortnight was ruined by the online platform changing to a point people are abandoning it in droves because of the stupidity of things thrown into an otherwise great game by the new controllers of the content.

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3 hours ago, Todd2 said:

The futures so bright I gotta wear shades

 

Turn off the Bloom, that will help... 🤣🤣🤣

Just now, Pivot said:

Turn off the Bloom, that will help... 🤣🤣🤣

Haha 😄

Sorry, not sure what happened with the multiple posts.

1 hour ago, Dillon said:

The Cloud concept is troubling especially when it can all change on the whim of Big Tech. When the plug is pulled it won't be like it was with FS9/FSX where we had our own working copy to keep enjoying the sim.

FSX had some online features when it was released. Its Multiplayer and weather, IIRC. IF, and a big IF here, MSFS gets canceled or run its course and MS decides not release a new version, the users can always use 3rd party weather add-on, 3rd party traffic and enhance the scenery with 3rd party scenery add-ons.

After all, the add-on market for FSX only got big after some time it was cancelled. The MSFS market is already thriving, so, if/when canceled, we would find a way.

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2 hours ago, ThrottleUp said:

I was thinking about something while on American Truck Sim the other night - how cool would it be if MS one day released a train sim, ship sim & truck sim...into the same virtual earth as MSFS. 

If the AI can evolve to a point where it can extrapolate and draw / place detail like rocks, or use phone data to place people etc. they could make a truly virtual Earth.

Kind of like the simulation we all exist in now😳

20 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

If the AI can evolve to a point where it can extrapolate and draw / place detail like rocks, or use phone data to place people etc. they could make a truly virtual Earth.

Kind of like the simulation we all exist in now😳

It can, but of course it will never replace hanmade scenery and for a truck simulator, the difference will be noticeable. But, let's put like this: today they do everything by hand, what if they use the base scenery from MSFS and work over that?

For trucks or trains, you don't need make every inch of the earth acessible (for trains you just have to work the railroads surroundings). Today they already have to work on the whole scenery by hand/or procedurally. Having a good base scenery, that looks good in general, they just would have to improve the closer scenery (closer to the roads and railroads). It would actually free the development time to make the sceneries bigger or improve them.

43 minutes ago, ca_metal said:

It can, but of course it will never replace hanmade scenery and for a truck simulator, the difference will be noticeable.

I'm not so sure.

MS has tons of 'street view' imagery just as they have aerial and satelite imagery.  The AI could probably be taught to recreate ATS with highly realistic scenery...and more of it and faster than SCS can.  it be interesting to see the results over time.

3 hours ago, ThrottleUp said:

I was thinking about something while on American Truck Sim the other night - how cool would it be if MS one day released a train sim, ship sim & truck sim...into the same virtual earth as MSFS. 

Fly in a Cub and buzz your friend trucking down below, land a helicopter on a friends yacht while they are in ship sim or follow a friend in an ultralight while they are driving a long BNSF freight train. 

All the while talking to each other. Truly it would be a Second Life. 

It's guaranteed to happen.  I hope to be here when I can captain a 787 into KSFO, hop into my Tesla Roadster, and race on down to Pebble Beach to play 18h w/ Paige Spirinac ;o)

Buuutttt I was outside in the back yard and only half dressed when the Bing camera satellite flew over my house 🥵