I do not care at all for the terminals innards...Maybe I've seen too many in my life. What I am interested in is what I see from the aircraft, on the ground or on pattern/approach : tarmac (equipments, personel), open hangar (aircraft, equipment, personel) and land side of the airport  (large billboards, parking lots etc).  And having an old machine I am always worried that they will tax my FPS if too detailed.

In the fluff department, what I miss are the animated people, that I call endearingly the little Mickeys, that Orbx brought to the game years ago. They bring life to smaller airports. 

I have seen plenty of glass "textures" in my time that do a very bad impression of a blurry view of the interiors of terminal buildings to know that crisp and clear transparent glass textures with detailed interior modelling is a vastly superior option.

13 hours ago, andy1252 said:

This is not meant as a specific reply to you personally, JRM, but I just wanted to use your comment as a basis for a response in general.

I absolutely respect this point of view, and I know there are many, possibly (but by no means certainly) the majority of, sim users who feel this way. But, for myself, I have absolutely no interest in mastering the complexities of flying any aircraft. What I mean by that is that I have an interest in aircraft, and I love the idea of flying around in a sim, but I wouldn't know a SID from a STAR if either of them came up and bit me on the ankle. And as to what most of those dials and buttons in the cockpit do . . .

I'm not belittling the idea of devoting all your energies to mastering one or two aircraft, and I can see the attraction of building a fully modelled 737 home cockpit and getting in to that level of detail. But for me, I just want to be able to get something like the Cub or a Baron off the ground satisfactorily, and if I can get it back down without bouncing so much the better.

You see for me, and I really don't think I'm the only one with this approach, the whole thing about MSFS is that we've finally got the beginnings of a real world sim, and it just happens that we can also fly around in it. The greater the level of detail available in the sim, the better it is as far as this goes. I have got hundreds of airports for this sim, and I probably spend as much time exploring down at ground level (and not just in airports, but around the scenery in general) with the drone cam as I do in the air in an aircraft.

Sometimes I like to focus on the flight and the aircraft, I mean let's face it, there's not many a finer sight than a Spitfire soaring through the sky, but equally sometimes I love to just pan around a beautifully rendered landscape full of luscious trees and other greenery, or maybe wander around inside a well-designed and implemented set of airport buildings.

This is the first flight sim where this has become possible, and I will happily buy ever more detailed scenery addons, but I'll never spend money on super-compex aircraft. Mind you, I did buy the DC-6 because I love the look of it, but to be honest, I hardly ever bother to fly it.

And if they ever introduce proper working road and rail traffic I'm up for that too. In fact, I'd love to see MSFS ultimately incorporating a Train SIm, Driving Sim, Farm Sim even. Hey, somebody comes up with a working ten-pin bowling alley addon-on I'll buy that too.

And I love the idea that while I'm down here 100 feet off the ground hanging over the side of my Grravel gawping at the rooftops, some of you guys are 40,000 feet above me pressing those buttons, chatting with ATC (I assume?) and doing all that piloty stuff. And if we want to do so, we can all do that together in multiplayer mode (not for me though, deeply anti-social as I am <grin>).

Enjoy whatever you do!

You should take a look at Star Citizen, it has all of this and more😉

Edited September 21, 20214 yr by SierraHotel

13 hours ago, HiFlyer said:

Exactly.

Who decides the boundaries?

We love the birds and the zebras....

We wanna see moving cars and boats....

We like interiors in our planes.....

But airport interiors are across the line?

I'm kinda indifferent to them, but I certainly don't question them. I just assume somebody out there likes them, and to each their own.

 

And coming soon compulsory masks and vax certificates 🤪🙃

Add it to the list of things some AVSIMers just find unbearable

AI Road Traffic

AI Sea Traffic

Any signs of organic life on planet earth in a flight sim... peds,animals etc etc

Detailed Airport Interiors

Foldable/Portable Sim Chairs

Virtual Reality

XBox Consoles

The Youth

Joy & Overall Happiness

Change

Non "Study Level" Everything

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, SierraHotel said:

And coming soon compulsory masks and vax certificates 🤪🙃

actually ... if there was a Covid mask addon for airport people I would definitely buy it, it kind of breaks immersion all those unmasked people

4 hours ago, SierraHotel said:

You should take a look at Star Citizen, it has all of this and more

I'm not much of a gamer generally, so I'd not heard of this but I'll download the free trial and take a look. If I can get away without having to pretend to be Ahnuld and don't have to shoot folk it might be interesting - certainly visually impressive. Thanks!

I don't mind interior being done, Its novelty wears off aftr a while sure. 

But at these cost of runway textures. And the level of runway textures. 

I hate flat runways. ASOBO has given us Undulated runway texutres, these addons vendors are still on Flat rundways and lousy textures. Both taxiway and runways. After they do this, If  they focus on interiors I do't mind like that DD Washington DC Airport. It was their first they did that Amazing.

3 hours ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

actually ... if there was a Covid mask addon for airport people I would definitely buy it, it kind of breaks immersion all those unmasked people

https://flightsim.to/file/1353/facemasks-staysafe 🤪

Edited September 21, 20214 yr by HiFlyer

are those ffp2 masks? that will be a day 1 buy for me. otherwise I'd rather wait for the professional version. looking forward to a review and first testers, who jumps first, do they really work? fly safe!

Edited September 21, 20214 yr by turbomax

3 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

I love interior modelling, what's not to like, more detail, isn't that why so many like MSFS, more detail?

In P3D I use avatar mode to explore the airport I paid for, get my money's worth.  I hope MS/Asobo add an avatar mode.

And yes you can get a driveable car for MSFS ... none of the guages work and it handles like mario kart, front wheels don't rotate, only rear and is very bumpy with Photogrammetry enabled, but as pointed out, to each his or her own.

Cheers, Rob.

Exactly, with the high level of details from developers such as NZA Simulations and PilotPlus. I would also love to have a 3rd person mode where I can walk around to explore all the high details that have been put into these next gen airports! There's so much to see and appreciate that you cannot really appreciate from the cockpit, but needs to be seen in a first person walk around mode for MSFS.

7 minutes ago, captain420 said:

I would also love to have a 3rd person mode where I can walk around

it is already possible. I press  the INS key for spot view et voila - I can freely move around with my MS Sidewinder 360, I can walk and fly through glass doors, don't even need elevators to get to the 2nd floor, check the tower room and the maps they show on their monitors, while my plane sits outside and waits for me with engines running, best experienced in VR.

Edited September 21, 20214 yr by turbomax

2 minutes ago, turbomax said:

it is already possible. I press  the INS key for spot view et voila - I can freely move around with my MS Sidewinder 360, I can walk and fly through glass doors, don't even need elevators to get to the 2nd floor, while my plane sits outside and waits with engines running, if you prefer. best experienced in VR.

That's not really what I was talking about. Sure you can use that or the drone to accomplish it but it's not immersive. A first person or 3rd person mode where you can see your character walking is what I'm talking about.

13 minutes ago, captain420 said:

where you can see your character walking

not a conditio sine qua non for me to be honest. in the meantime and in VR, this is fantastic immersion. I can move around like James Bond with his JetPack. I insist on transparent windows in airport and tower buildings, preferably with rain drops like  Pyreegue's  Edinburgh or Pilot Plus Bristol, they both seem to be the first and only ones currently to figure out how to achieve this effect. sitting there and waiting for your delayed departure on a rainy day- as real as it gets. works only in the best modelled airports with detailed interior.

Edited September 21, 20214 yr by turbomax

6 minutes ago, captain420 said:

That's not really what I was talking about. Sure you can use that or the drone to accomplish it but it's not immersive. A first person or 3rd person mode where you can see your character walking is what I'm talking about.

You want to walk Around a Huge Airport! HA HA HA! I love the prsent Setup, you can crawl or you can Run fast, or you can  buzz on an invisible chopper,. You can be at 6' or 300' or 1 Mile high!

It can do everything if you are creative! All programmed with  your Joystick.