Lets put this in perspective, some people are having problems, a few people were complaining it would not fly higher than 12000ft and then the engines would cut out, it turns out they were leaving the mixture control to full rich instead of slowly leaning it out as you climb to altitude (jet pilots probably lol), others saying that if you used the superchargers the fps drops to 3fps, I have had the Connie up to 27,000ft  superchargers on, no problems at all. I have done a three and a half hour flight in her from KBOs to CYYT again no problems at all, it is not perfect by any means, a lot of the systems do not work yet and occasionally I have had problems with AP, but the plane is still in development, the potential is there for it to be a really good aircraft, comparing it to the DC6 in not fair the DC6 is a finished product the Connie is not. I agree that the asking price is high, but there is a lot of development going on and if they achieve all their goals, the aircraft will be well worth the asking price. I would say give Redwing a chance, let see what the finished aircraft is like before we start complaining. The Connie will do something the DC6 cant do, when you start the engines you get plenty of smoke. I also own the DC6 and think PMDG have done a great job with it, so I am certainly not being biased in my opinions.

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OK so I'm sneaky too I get to beta build to test as well 😎

I should give credit to developers. They do listen and take critique very constructively! 

38 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

OK so I'm sneaky too I get to beta build to test as well 😎

I should give credit to developers. They do listen and take critique very constructively! 

How is the FPS compared to the DC-6? One of the things that kinda puts me off flying the DC-6 more is the less-than-stellar performance (which has me worried for their 737). 

7 minutes ago, liamp51 said:

How is the FPS compared to the DC-6? One of the things that kinda puts me off flying the DC-6 more is the less-than-stellar performance (which has me worried for their 737). 

I don't have fps counter but on my rig Connie runs about the same as DC-6 if not little better.

15 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I don't have fps counter but on my rig Connie runs about the same as DC-6 if not little better.

Gotcha! Good to know. I really want this thing to work out haha

2 minutes ago, liamp51 said:

Gotcha! Good to know. I really want this thing to work out haha

Me too!

 

On 11/9/2021 at 8:12 PM, Scimiter said:

The engines sound fantastic, I have not took to much notice of the other sounds. I have been to busy trying to work the systems out, it still needs a lot of work, if they make it as complex as they say they are going to, it will need a flight engineer, which I think is in the pipeline, It is also all steam gauges, there appears to be no modern navigation systems are onboard. The AP works okay once you work out how to operate it, the ILS did catch the glide path for awhile but started to lose it as I got nearer the Airport, but that again is a work in progress.

Thanks Scimiter !  Watching the "Into the Blue" review i was not that much impressed by the sounds, thought i heared some flanging going on ( caused by the use of the same wav file for multiple engines) but it's not fair to judge by viewing a video only of course. 

I LOVE the PMDG DC-6 but must say not that impressed with the engine sounds either. I mean, there certainly is room for improvement in the DC-6 engine sound department (i believe there's a dedicated way of creating sound for MSFS which seems to be still problematic for devs to work with). 

AI Flight engineer: absolutely !  Again, that of the PMDG DC-6 is just brilliant. As soon as i hear that a guy like that has just boarded the Redwing Connie as well i won't hesitate anymore to buy it. 

Modern navigation: i LOVE "flying the needles' so absolutely no need for modern stuff for me. 

AP: losing the ILS sounds pretty frustrating to me, Redwing should tackle that bug right away i think. 

Had a bit of a problem getting into Discord ( new computer ) but i'm in now and it's great to see the Redwing respons there (do feel a bit sorry for them, there's such a LOT of bugs to deal with... I wonder, their Connie might've been a bug sprayer... ;-)) I'll certainly will be keeping track of its progress ! 

Edited November 13, 20214 yr by Javiz

5 hours ago, Scimiter said:

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Well, yes, but that's one of the reasons for my sitting on the fence atm. There's a burst of smoke at start-up there alright but then it keeps hanging around there behind the engine while it should be blasted away by the propeller wake!  A more unrealistic sight will be hard to find.... But kudos to Redwing for atleast trying it. Hopefully they'll get that important effect finished up sooner or later.  

15 minutes ago, Javiz said:

Well, yes, but that's one of the reasons for my sitting on the fence atm. There's a burst of smoke at start-up there alright but then it keeps hanging around there behind the engine while it should be blasted away by the propeller wake!  A more unrealistic sight will be hard to find.... But kudos to Redwing for atleast trying it. Hopefully they'll get that important effect finished up sooner or later.  

Still smoke looks pretty awesome ! 

On 11/10/2021 at 2:02 PM, jarmstro said:

Where's Chock? I need him to review it! (Please). Seems expensive for a beta. Too expensive unless I learn otherwise?

I will at some point, but to be honest I have to say 50 Euros (which would be about 43 quid for me) is a bit on the steep side for an unfinished product from a developer with no known pedigree, which is apparently going to cost even more when finished. Obviously being a contemporary of the DC-6 from PMDG, it will invite comparisons, especially when the PMDG finished product is very polished and is only 1 quid more, but we also have to consider that PMDG is a known quantity with a reputation for creating quality products, which their DC-6 indeed is; a newcomer developer has none of that gravitas to trade off, and that is what makes me think they're charging too much. 

I don't expect developers to work for nothing and it is of course not unknown for a new developer to come straight out of the gate and knock it out of the park (to comedically mix some metaphors) but this has to be tempered with some realistic understanding of the market and the need to build a reputation for quality before charging premium prices. It reminds me a bit of Toyota, when they created their Lexus brand in the early Eighties. With none of the gravitas of the Mercedes and BMW brands they were challenging, they had to go for knocking it out of the park in terms of luxury and performance, which indeed they did and this has served to give the brand the reputation for being up-market, but they could not expect that to happen overnight, the product had to establish itself and then it was able to speak for itself. And so to continue this analogy, it's worth bearing in mind that to achieve that with their brand, Toyota did not release an unfinished car at a premium price and stick a different badge on it with a promise that it would get better and would then cost even more, which is what these guys are trying to do, and it's not a great marketing strategy.

Edited November 13, 20214 yr by Chock

Changed my mind, watched the video and to my mind the textures and appearance, which have gotten a lot criticism, look pretty good, and all seem to agree that the systems depth is good. Going to buy it later today.

The need for excess leaning to maintain power at altitude is something the JF Turbo Arrows suffer from as well. It seems to be a sim issue to do with the sim not taking into account correctly the normalisation that occurs with turbos and superchargers at altitude.

12 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

I don't have fps counter but on my rig Connie runs about the same as DC-6 if not little better.

It should have better FPS, there is a lot less going on with the Connie than with the DC6 with all it's gauges and calculations going on. Like comparing apples and Oranges. 

Hehe, I could see myself buying this just to watch the engine start procedure the sparks and smoke... Then again for 50 Euros that seems to be the only functionality this has the PMDG 6 doesn't.  

This is just me speaking for me but if PMDG added that smoke and spark with the current state of the 6 and it's AFE I can't see myself purchasing this one.  Just me but I guess I am that vain and shallow LOL  

Edited November 13, 20214 yr by psolk

3 hours ago, Chock said:

I will at some point, but to be honest I have to say 50 Euros (which would be about 43 quid for me) is a bit on the steep side for an unfinished product from a developer with no known pedigree, which is apparently going to cost even more when finished. Obviously being a contemporary of the DC-6 from PMDG, it will invite comparisons, especially when the PMDG finished product is very polished and is only 1 quid more, but we also have to consider that PMDG is a known quantity with a reputation for creating quality products, which their DC-6 indeed is; a newcomer developer has none of that gravitas to trade off, and that is what makes me think they're charging too much. 

I don't expect developers to work for nothing and it is of course not unknown for a new developer to come straight out of the gate and knock it out of the park (to comedically mix some metaphors) but this has to be tempered with some realistic understanding of the market and the need to build a reputation for quality before charging premium prices. It reminds me a bit of Toyota, when they created their Lexus brand in the early Eighties. With none of the gravitas of the Mercedes and BMW brands they were challenging, they had to go for knocking it out of the park in terms of luxury and performance, which indeed they did and this has served to give the brand the reputation for being up-market, but they could not expect that to happen overnight, the product had to establish itself and then it was able to speak for itself. And so to continue this analogy, it's worth bearing in mind that to achieve that with their brand, Toyota did not release an unfinished car at a premium price and stick a different badge on it with a promise that it would get better and would then cost even more, which is what these guys are trying to do, and it's not a great marketing strategy.

I would never buy this aircraft, because I already bought the Connie from A2A, which I flew  on P3D, and now the PMDG DC6. Just looking at the Youtube reviews, the Connie  is not even in the same league as the A2A or PMDG aircraft, but more like something Carenado would sell. Seems to me that a reasonable price would be more like $30-35, but even at that, I wouldn't buy it anyway. Having too much fun flying the DC6. As far as the engine "flames" while it is flying, it looks like something out of a cartoon. I have flown in similar aircraft when I was in the military, and that is not what the flame coming out of the exhaust looks like at all. 

Edited November 13, 20214 yr by Bobsk8