February 16, 20224 yr Author 4 hours ago, FAZZ3 said: I don't understand the negative reaction to OP. Different strokes for different folks. Some people may not be systems enthusiasts and are more visual flyers. OP, have a look at Bijan's tree pack to add a global variety of trees to your sim. Thank you very much for the suggestion. I have given Bijan's tree pack a look. It's richer in color and has more variety than REX trees. Somehow I still prefer the plain look of the REX mod which seems to be more natural. Bijan's trees are a bit, how should I say, too flashy and exagerated? I don't know. Maybe I should try it for better comparison.
February 16, 20224 yr Moderator 12 minutes ago, PlumCrazy said: With all due respect, there are no "helpful" responses to this post (including the ones not removed). I'm not even sure how one would go about helping, when the OP is simply stating he/she (really) doesn't like the appearance of trees in the sim. I didn't see the removed posts so have no opinion on their quality, but hopefully we are allowed to disagree on these forums. I honestly thought the OP was being facetious when I read the thread title... There may be various 3rd party applications that can change the appearance of the trees. I can't comment as I don't have MSFS. The OP was expressing an opinion. There are no right or wrong opinions. Facts are different but we're not discussing facts but a person's opinion. You can disagree about how you perceive something. What you should not do is tell someone their opinion is wrong. Opinions are subjective. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
February 16, 20224 yr 2 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: ... I can't comment as I don't have MSFS... What? You're the one? Edited February 16, 20224 yr by bobcat999 Spellin mistak Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
February 16, 20224 yr Author 1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said: There may be various 3rd party applications that can change the appearance of the trees. I can't comment as I don't have MSFS. The OP was expressing an opinion. There are no right or wrong opinions. Facts are different but we're not discussing facts but a person's opinion. You can disagree about how you perceive something. What you should not do is tell someone their opinion is wrong. Opinions are subjective. Thank you for the support for the expression of opinions. I understand different people have different focus on the sim. Some believe the aerodynamics, cockpit control, ATC etc to be the core parts of the sim which should receive top priority. That's completely reasonable and understandable. But that doesn't mean trees are not important. Nowadays Flight simulation is no longer just the realistic simulation of a certain plane, but also the world around it. I believe this is a tendency of flight simulation, and other simulations as well, and MSFS is exactly on that road. It's the creation of a world which is not restricted to just a vehicle. My first flight sim is FS4, which didn't even have any trees. Maybe there were some, if we could call the sporadic straight lines "trees". Yet I still remember my excitement, which was even stronger than my feeling towards MSFS 2020. What I mean is the world is changing. Our desire for realism, aesthetics and immersion is growing. What's acceptable in the past is no longer so now. There is also the Wooden Bucket Theory. The capacity of a bucket is determined by the shortest stave. A beautiful modern sim can be more easily hurt by an element that may not be noticed in the past at all. Edited February 16, 20224 yr by yanfeng12342000
February 16, 20224 yr Trees are important. Ive seen some great shots of urban areas/cities that look amazingly realistic except for the trees that are rounded and often to big imo.
February 16, 20224 yr 15 hours ago, yanfeng12342000 said: My biggest complaint about MSFS is the shape of trees If it's down to this as the biggest complaint, we've clearly come a very long way 😉 Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
February 16, 20224 yr I agree, many things are 'overdone' or not quite right when comes to the artistic implementation in the sim. Trees are one thing they do not look 'right'. Lightning and clouds are off as well! Asobo treats the sim more like a game in some aspects, meaning 'oh lets create something that looks like a tree, rather then close to real as much as possible with todays tech. The water on the other hand is spot on in my opinion. Most of what is said on the Internet may be the same thing they shovel on the regular basis at the local barn.
February 16, 20224 yr Are the trees moving in the wind? I have seen a video with moving grass, but not the trees. My sceneries (excerpt): LPMA Madeira (XPFR), LGSR Santorini, LRBV Brasov, the city of Fürth (Germany), several libraries, ...
February 16, 20224 yr 47 minutes ago, uwespeed said: Are the trees moving in the wind? I have seen a video with moving grass, but not the trees. Alas, they are not moving in the wind Bob. Seriously tho, trees are important. Seasons by Bijan, Henriks ships look great, and i think a 3rd party developer for trees would be great also.🤓
February 16, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, uwespeed said: Are the trees moving in the wind? I have seen a video with moving grass, but not the trees. Yes trees move also in the wind, but it has to be a strong one before you see it.
February 16, 20224 yr Can I mention the words "vegetation draw distance" too? An astonishingly beautiful sim with this huge flaw, and it really kills things for me. For many people they don't even notice it.
February 16, 20224 yr For me, the two issues with trees is: - they are overall always far too tall - they are a bit homogenous
February 16, 20224 yr 51 minutes ago, Gerwil said: Yes trees move also in the wind, but it has to be a strong one before you see it. Had some 50-70 kts ground wind at ENAL today and the trees were literally swaying in the wind, first time I actually realized that, looked pretty impressive Phil Leaven i5 10600KF, 32 GB 3200 RAM, ASUS 4070 12GB EVO, Asus ROG Z490-H, 2 WD Black NVME for each Win11 (500GB) and MSFS (1TB), Rolling Cache 16GB, Photogrammetry always OFF, Live Weather and Live Traffic always ON, Res 2560x1440 on 27"
February 17, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, DAD said: Had some 50-70 kts ground wind at ENAL today and the trees were literally swaying in the wind, first time I actually realized that, looked pretty impressive Can't be missed with such winds 🙂
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