The OP might find the parallel thread "A Fool and His Money ..." interesting. It makes clear what was already known:  you do NOT need a super rig (or a massive power supply) to run MSFS 2020, and run it well.

16 minutes ago, cobalt said:

to run MSFS 2020, and run it well.

if you run at low resolution and mid settings, but don't we know that by now?

4 hours ago, MySound said:

There you go for your EVGA claims. 
Hint: they also tend to fail 😉

 

https://forums.evga.com/m/tm.aspx?m=3128600&p=1

 

by the way: how is your favorite manufacturer doing now in New World? GPUs still going up in smoke? 😉

Yeah. They are also humans….

Sigh

WTH does that have to do with the adequacy of wattage  on the OP's rig ?  Did the op state his PC randomly shuts down ?.. Hint answer is no . Hence Not a PSU issue and the recommendation to move to the next troubleshooting steps which we are awaitng the results from the OP on.

In your quest to find information to disprove why i said this isnt a PSU issue.. you just proved it .. What does the PC do in the EVGA thread you so gleefully posted?

.. Yeah ..

IT SHUTS OFF.

What the hell is wrong with you and turbomax?.. Please  TRY TO FOCUS THIS ISNT ABOUT YOU OR ME .. IF you don't have ANYTHING TO CONTRIBUTE to help fix the OPs issue then please quit posting ... 

YOU and Turbo have been previously ignored from previous interactions in other threads .. Your proving to me more and more why i have you on ignore.. 

 

Edited February 22, 20224 yr by Maxis

2 minutes ago, turbomax said:

if you run at low resolution and mid settings, but don't we know that by now?

A couple of quotes from the aforementioned thread:

"...and then MSFS was optimised for the Xbox and now I get great performance from that. My sliders are on a mix of medium to high on MSFS and even at that the graphics still look amazing."

" ...compared to all other sims it's truly amazing. Mostly Ultra/High settings, too. "  

16 minutes ago, Maxis said:

Sigh

WTH does that have to do with the adequacy of wattage  on the OP's rig ? 

What the hell is wrong with you and turbomax?..

YOU and Turbo have been previously ignored .. Your proving to me more and more why i have you on ignore.. 

 

PiaggioPilot "I've been doing my research as I know many people experienced this but all the potential fixes I've found, haven't worked."

so I jumped in and gave tips because I had similar problems, with suggestions how I solved it.

that may be all known facts for you and you are welcome to ignore it, I am sure very few users were aware of spikes in GPU power requirements that can vary from 100% to 200% within milliseconds that can crash your pc (referring to research by Igors Lab) that show power requirements can exceed the average PSU suggested by you and EVGA. BSODs, hard resets etc are all complex issues with complex multiple possible causes. PSU being one of them.

Edited February 22, 20224 yr by turbomax

16 minutes ago, turbomax said:

that may be all known facts for you and you are welcome to ignore it, I am sure very few users were aware of spikes in GPU power requirements that can vary from 100% to 200% within milliseconds that can crash your pc (referring to research by Igors Lab) that show power requirements can exceed the average PSU suggested by you and EVGA. BSODs, hard resets etc are all complex issues with complex multiple possible causes. PSU being one of them.

The System integrator that the OP purchased his rig from  is retailing hundreds if not thousands of these setup using a platinum rated PSU. Now i can understand maybe a few being defective. Your willing to jump to his PSU being the issue with no symptom to even indicate that the psu is possibly an issue. 

OP has yet to state he has experienced a "hard reset" or an unexpected power down.. but yall wanna jump to his PSU being the issue. Meanwhile everything that he has experienced point to other components and possible causes that must be verified BEFORE advising the op to spend money to replace his PSU. Which is more than capable to power his system.

Good lord .. 

Anyways OP hasn't responded and I'm wholly uninterested at this point to argue with both of you .. please try not to respond to me and i will do the same. 

Edited February 22, 20224 yr by Maxis

understood, you control who and what gets posted and what may/may not be leading to a solution in a complex problem situation. other users chose a similar approach and it has solved their problems.

Bobsk8"When I got my new PC last year, I had CTD after CTD, with sometimes the screen freezing. They tried everything remotely from the manufacturer including stress testing it, and could not find the problem. It only did this on MSFS 2020. I finally sent the PC on an RMA back to the company. They replaced the AMD GPU with a Nvidia, on my request, and replaced the power supply with a higher wattage unit. Have not had a CTD since "

Maxis"I'm wholly uninterested at this point to argue with both of you"

I don't see anyone arguing here, there were just a variety of assumptions and various suggestions from several users trying to help a fellow simmer.

take care.

Edited February 22, 20224 yr by turbomax

Check my sig for a system with a 650 PSU.

ns

 

And I suggest that we all focus on the OP's issue and stop the " mine is bigger than yours" diatribe. The OP is asking for help not trying to start an argument.

 

 

Also, I don't think that any system requires > a 650PSU today.  Mostly marketing IMO.

ns

21 minutes ago, bean_sprout said:

Mostly marketing IMO.

????

looks more like a test lab with expensive test equipment of an independent electronics engineer:

"I don't think that any system requires > a 650PSU today"

you understand that the yellow peaks go up to 780 watts while average is only 600 watts??

Edited February 22, 20224 yr by turbomax

59 minutes ago, turbomax said:

 

Bobsk8"When I got my new PC last year, I had CTD after CTD, with sometimes the screen freezing. They tried everything remotely from the manufacturer including stress testing it, and could not find the problem. It only did this on MSFS 2020. I finally sent the PC on an RMA back to the company. They replaced the AMD GPU with a Nvidia, on my request, and replaced the power supply with a higher wattage unit. Have not had a CTD since "

 

 

TBH i am out of my depth at this point. I am curious though why you focus on the PSU more than the switch from an AMD GPU .Just a thought..

 

he said he exchanged both. I exchanged only my PSU, many possibilities.

" i am out of my depth at this point"

easy, easy, there are much bigger hardware problems, like exploding PSUs from Gigabyte for example. to diagnose that you don't need expensive test equipment. 😀

Edited February 22, 20224 yr by turbomax

11 minutes ago, turbomax said:

????

looks more like a test lab with expensive test equipment of an independent electronics engineer:

"I don't think that any system requires > a 650PSU today"

you understand that the yellow peaks go up to 780 watts while average is only 600 watts??

Looks like 850 W is cutting close to be stable given 80 percent rating on high end PSUs.

Edited February 22, 20224 yr by 40track

 

7 minutes ago, 40track said:

Looks like 850 W is cutting too close to be stable give 80 percent rating.

I agree, and that is why I was stressing this issue because we users can not diagnose this without such an electronics laboratory and test equipment, hence the ignorance of some users "all just marketing"

" I don't think that any system requires > a 650PSU today."

"650 watts ought to be enough for any pc"

Bill Gates