2 hours ago, JSmith2112 said:

In the recent podcast where Randazzo was interviewed he mentions (...) that they are starting to run down their cash reserves.

Ya'know I said exactly this on page 1 of this thread and immediately got snarky replies. Avsim can really be frustrating sometimes.

Edited April 9, 20224 yr by WestAir
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6 minutes ago, Adrian123 said:

This is true at least the flight controls aspect. Not intended for an Xbox controller.

I mean if we're going down this path...  XP11 runs on your phone hehe! 

I'm not talking xbox though...

I'm speaking of PC to PC.  But opinions are like B holes...everyone's got one 😉

1 hour ago, Bob Scott said:

No, he did not say that it would fly more realistically..

Actually, he did.

The wording he used about the flight model is "much more real, more fluid, and more dynamic."

He also praised MSFS' aerodynamics which "really allowed to unlock behaviors in a high altitude swept-wing jet that we haven’t been able to unlock before."

I have a feeling that crow sandwiches will be on the menu in a few weeks. 

Edited April 9, 20224 yr by Abriael

1 minute ago, Abriael said:

Actually, he did.

The wording he used about the flight model is "much more real, more fluid, and more dynamic."

He also praised MSFS' aerodynamics that which "really allowed to unlock behaviors in a high altitude swept-wing jet that we haven’t been able to unlock before."

I have a feeling that crow sandwiches will be on the menu in a few weeks. 

What are all the MSFS bashers going to talk about now?   😉

Just now, Bobsk8 said:

What are all the MSFS bashers going to talk about now?   😉

Probably saying that Robert is a liar because much less prestigious developers say so. 😂

13 minutes ago, Abriael said:

I have a feeling that crow sandwiches will be on the menu in a few weeks. 

Indeed...the target audience for these crow sandwiches usually love to draw attention to the default aircraft, or MSFS being playable on XBox in addition to PC, or initial MSFS summer 2020 release issues/bugs, etc etc to then therefore mean MSFS is not for Real Simming ™️ ... I mean, it's kinda adorable tho to watch them try their darndest to bash MSFS, especially fanb***s of other sims :))

Edited April 9, 20224 yr by lwt1971

10 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Indeed...the target audience for these crow sandwiches usually love to draw attention to the default aircraft, or MSFS being playable on XBox, or initial MSFS summer 2020 release issues/bugs, etc to then mean all of MSFS is not for Real Simming ™️ ... I mean, it's kinda adorable tho to watch them try their darndest to bash MSFS, especially fanb***s of other sims :))

The irony is, according to the latest Navigraph survey from a few months ago, the overwhelming majority of Navigraph subscribers are using MSFS now.  Navigraph subscribers are the “hard core simmer.”  Casual flight simmers aren’t going to pay for a Navigraph subscription.  This means the “hard core simmer” market has endorsed MSFS as their flight simulator of choice.

Edited April 9, 20224 yr by abrams_tank

3 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

Well, wasn't the PMDG MSFS DC6 the best version of the PMDG DC6 among P3D, XP, and MSFS?  Maybe Randazzo is speaking the truth here, based on the DC6 that came out for MSFS

He probably is, I do not intend to call into question is integrity; I just find the talk to be very marketing oriented, which is what I would expect from the head of a company promoting his product. I just have some trepidation with "early access", but on the balance of probabilities I suspect it will be a step up from previous versions. 

 

4 hours ago, jarmstro said:

What scunnuers me is being screwed and lied to. ( The idea that the 800 is so much more complicated than the 700 seems to me to be stretching credibility..')

Your credentials as to 737 system differences and software development processes are what exactly? What seems to be stretching credibility to me is that you accuse someone else of lying based on absolutely no foundation whatsoever and yet still feel you're the victim - for being treated in a way that you made up yourself.

I'm not here to defend anyone or take sides and I'm from hereon speaking generally and not specifically about you. You can choose to believe what a developer says or you can choose not to. But don't make accusations and stir up conspiracy about something you're plain rationally not in any position to make claims about.

One thing that has always struck me about the flight sim community is that many seem to lack the ability to see a business as just that - a business - instead of a hobby club and to say 'I don't like it, I'll move on' and be done with it. You can place safe bets on when the next huge brawl is going to go down.

You can buy whatever variant you want individually as a stand-alone product for way less than they've ever cost you before and people who are eligible for the NGXu credit will be able to choose whatever way they want to action that credit, while - from the looks of it - even getting a variant for free and still having left over a portion of the credit towards other variants.

But we have to stir up the turmoil yet again about cash grabs, lies and deception just because the release order isn't what some people wanted.

10 hours ago, harrry said:

I fly with Virtual Airlines, or Real time flights that are in the air on FlightRadar24.  I fly in Australia and Asia, mostly SEAsia and China.  No airline flies the 700 or 600 in these aireas that I am aware of.  I do nt fly in the us vey much because of the time difference,  Southwest may suit some of you but not me.  The 600does have the snapiness that is missing from the others and because of the long range tanks in the Business jet version hasa a little interest but the 7oo adds little to the mix.  I have gone for a long period without it having the kind of airliner I like to fly and it is disapointing to have it delayed even more.  Yes I can fly in P3d or Xplane but that may mean I decide I do not need Robert's wares.

Virgin Australia still operate 2 700's, along with the many Chinese / Japanese airlines that someone has already mentioned.

Plenty of options.

51 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

The irony is, according to the latest Navigraph survey from a few months ago, the overwhelming majority of Navigraph subscribers are using MSFS now.  Navigraph subscribers are the “hard core simmer.”  Casual flight simmers aren’t going to pay for a Navigraph subscription.  This means the “hard core simmer” market has endorsed MSFS as their flight simulator of choice.

I'm straying a bit off topic here.  While I agree with you generally speaking....that survey was very biased to users of airliner type addons (users who typically would be subscribing to navigraph fms data/charts).  Also many smaller developers did not participate in the survey.  For instance if there were a lot of General Aviation simmers who were not represented in that survey in say, XP11, we would never know.  And they could be hard core as well.

Isn"t the 737-800ng most popular Boeing ? stinks we have to wait a few weeks ?

But other side of the coin, the consumer and PMDG are win win win.

I had the entire line when flying FSX and it was simply FANTASTIC !!! So pick ur choice or wait ?

10 hours ago, jarmstro said:

Think I'll just buy the BA146 to keep me occupied and wait for the 800. I'm not lining PMDG's pockets out of impatience. I don't buy the preposterous statement made by them that the 800 is so additionally more complicated than the 700 that it requires 12 weeks more development time. 

Yup using my credit on that they ain't getting anymore cash from me bunch of gaslighters.

3 hours ago, pommy80 said:

Virgin Australia still operate 2 700's, along with the many Chinese / Japanese airlines that someone has already mentioned.

Plenty of options.

 A number of governments around the world use the -700 as VIP transport as do various military's. The BBJ's of course are owned by a number of corporates and individuals and the USAF operate them as well (coded C40 Clipper). So long as a few liveries turn up on flightsim.to, there will be plenty of options to fly a -700 almost anywhere in the world in a real world manner,  without being locked into fixed airline route, schedules and destinations.

 

Cheers

Terry 

4 hours ago, VBHB said:

Yup using my credit on that they ain't getting anymore cash from me bunch of gaslighters.

Gaslighters? 🤔

14 hours ago, jarmstro said:

Think I'll just buy the BA146 to keep me occupied and wait for the 800. I'm not lining PMDG's pockets out of impatience. I don't buy the preposterous statement made by them that the 800 is so additionally more complicated than the 700 that it requires 12 weeks more development time. 

Imagine thinking one knows better about 737 development than the best Boeing 737 developer in the industry and calling their statement "preposterous" with zero actual evidence. 🤔

Edited April 10, 20224 yr by Abriael