2 minutes ago, MDFlier said:

It is. I've got them running off of my integrated Intel 630 GPU. I have it set to quality, and they look great to me. I'm running 3440x1440.

I've switched it to my 20280ti but I really didn't notice any changes so I moved it back. I have no idea if it makes an FPS difference. The "new me" has implemented a frame counter moratorium and I just don't care. The sim is smooth. A few minor stutters here and there, but that's normal for a sim. IMO

Same! Integrated GPU & Quality is the way to go for me. 

21 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

So it is possible to have the integrated GPU (in my 12900K) doing the flat screens, and my 3080 rendering everything everything else to the same monitor at the same time?
I never knew this was possible.  Seems like a novel solution to help performance.  Has any other developer implemented something like this?

Yes. Definitely a novel solution and as far as I know/remember never been done by other add-ons for sims. One of many innovations and "oh duh how come nobody thought of that?" ideas coming out of Fenix! All goodness since it can only serve to spur on other devs to step up.

I suppose the overall temperature on the CPU could rise due to both its core and the onboard GPU being exercised, but I can't imagine the onboard GPU being tasked to render the flight desk displays is going to factor in that much to CPU temps.  But definitely novel in how they provide this flexibility to users, so that depending on how cpu-bound or gpu-bound your system is you can distribute the load not just between the cpu and discrete gpu but also make use of the regularly-unused onboard gpu!

Edited May 20, 20224 yr by lwt1971

6 minutes ago, iFlySimX said:

Same! Integrated GPU & Quality is the way to go for me. 

I have a Asus ROG Strix Z490-E is that the same as your? if so i would be greatfull if you tell me how to turn on the 630, now you would have to walk me throught it....hehe.

7 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

I have a Asus ROG Strix Z490-E is that the same as your? if so i would be greatfull if you tell me how to turn on the 630, now you would have to walk me throught it....hehe.

Sure, load up the BIOS then:

1. Navigate to Advanced tab.

2. Navigate to System Agent (SA) Configuration.

3. Navigate to Graphics Configuration.

4. Locate iGPU Multi-Monitor and set it to Enabled. 

Thank you

26 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Yes. Definitely a novel solution and as far as I know/remember never been done by other add-ons for sims. One of many innovations and "oh duh how come nobody thought of that?" ideas coming out of Fenix! All goodness since it can only serve to spur on other devs to step up.

I suppose the overall temperature on the CPU could rise due to both its core and the onboard GPU being exercised, but I can't imagine the onboard GPU being tasked to render the flight desk displays is going to factor in that much to CPU temps.  But definitely novel in how they provide this flexibility to users, so that depending on how cpu-bound or gpu-bound your system is you can distribute the load not just between the cpu and discrete gpu but also make use of the regularly-unused onboard gpu!

This was also a solution posted a few months back for those that like to pop out displays say for the PFD & ND to combat the FPS loss when doing so and apparently it works really well.

I am sitting on the fence right now (although it is my wife's weekend to work so I am struggling not to get my wallet out lol), I am going to follow this thread with interest as I see many of you have much beefier systems than I do so that makes me a little nervous. I am hoping to upgrade though in the very near future to an i7-12700K & 12GB 3080, I just listed my CPU, motherboard & 1080TI for sale locally so will see if I get any bites this weekend. 

Are you locking FPS to 30 or are you running open?

Happy Friday BTW!

3 minutes ago, RJC68 said:

I am sitting on the fence right now (although it is my wife's weekend to work so I am struggling not to get my wallet out lol), I am going to follow this thread with interest as I see many of you have much beefier systems than I do so that makes me a little nervous. I am hoping to upgrade though in the very near future to an i7-12700K & 12GB 3080, I just listed my CPU, motherboard & 1080TI for sale locally so will see if I get any bites this weekend. 

Are you locking FPS to 30 or are you running open?

Happy Friday BTW!

Hello fellow Torontonian :), I'm actually getting this a bit later as I'm away from home currently.  From all what I've seen of this bird on many previews/reviews with those that have varying hardware, there doesn't appear to be any performance red flags at all... in many cases it's >= FBW performance, and perhaps a bit less than the PMDG 737. So depending on how you're doing with the FBW you can make your decisions re: purchasing this for your current system.  It's only going to get better with more performance optimization fixes and feature enhancements, but it's already looking like the most advanced immersive aircraft for any sim... so given all that I'd say you should go ahead and pull the trigger.

So what do we do if we don't have an integrated graphics card ? (AMD) No optimization possible ?

3 minutes ago, cepact said:

So what do we do if we don't have an integrated graphics card ? (AMD) No optimization possible ?

I don't have an Integrated Card, so I think I will most likely stick with the DC6 and GA aircraft. 

6 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I don't have an Integrated Card, so I think I will most likely stick with the DC6 and GA aircraft. 

10 minutes ago, cepact said:

So what do we do if we don't have an integrated graphics card ? (AMD) No optimization possible ?

I don't have integrated graphics (i5 F series processor) and I'm doing just fine. The need for integrated GPU has been hugely overstated. You just get the displays to render on your normal graphics card (this is default), but as most users are GPU limited you set the displays to render on your CPU (as I have done). MFS has never maxed out all my CPU cores, so it has spare capacity to draw the display screens and free up the graphics card a bit. You can also set the display rendering quality to performance.

I'm fairly sure Bob's system is a fair bit quicker than my i5-12400F with GTX980. I'm running MFS on reasonably high settings and getting 30 FPS. Really don't think it's an issue unless you are running VR or 4k and already pushing the envelope.

Edited May 20, 20224 yr by ckyliu

Just now, Bobsk8 said:

I don't have an Integrated Card, so I think I will most likely stick with the DC6 and GA aircraft. 

Well Bob it's not like you *need* to have an integrated GPU onboard the CPU to achieve good performance. You have a fairly new system with a good CPU and GPU right? You can still try to set the flight desk displays processing to either the CPU or discrete GPU to see which results in a better experience. Those that need an integrated GPU are probably ones with *both* older/less-powerful CPUs and GPUs.

I am flying the DC6 now and my CPU is reading around 20%, and GPU about 45% with Vram about 35% so I guess I should be Ok then.  ??

I too got some improvement by switching the display usage to my onboard integrated graphics (also the 630), rather than the 1080Ti or CPU....  But I can't say it's a dramatic difference.  Every little helps though.

I have a nice Friday off work today and have spent most of the morning flying the Fenix and it is very special; but again, the absolute lack of FCU key assignability does detract from the enjoyment for me.

I caved and bought the PMDG 737 last night.  It does not come with custom key assignments (yet) either, but there was a profile for Axis and Ohs on flightsim.to, and I now have key commands for every function of the MCP; VNAV, LNAV, the lot!   So I am enjoying that one more; but they're both fantastic.

Here's my current performance comparison with mostly medium settings.  This is sitting at the handcrafted Liverpool airport (EGGP), in the cockpit, looking straight ahead (at the same gate), with all systems and engines fired up:-

Default C172       58

Milviz C310R       53

PMDG 737           44

Fenix A320         28

That's the issue for me you see.  The guy on here who tells me yesterday that my older i7 4.0Ghz is "obsolete" 😄 .... well, it's obsoletion only seems apparant with the Fenix.  That is precisely why I've never upgraded the CPU; when getting 44 FPS in the PMDG and 50+ in most GA, while using TrackIR (as smooth as butter) I have just never felt the need.  Aren't programs supposed to be more GPU-bound these days?    My ol' GTX1080Ti has always punched well above it's weight with MSFS.  My CPU would certainly be proven obsolete were I getting parity in low performance across various addons.  That is absolutely not the case.  Anyway, clearly there are CPU-bound aspects to the Fenix's external logic, and that's all good.  I do certainly have an old CPU and that beautiful bird seems to be performing reasonably well for most here.   So it's all good. 😎

 

Edited May 20, 20224 yr by JYW

33 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I am flying the DC6 now and my CPU is reading around 20%, and GPU about 45% with Vram about 35% so I guess I should be Ok then.  ??

Gosh yes, you're worrying about nothing! It's analogous to "my newish car has a 155 mph top speed, will it be able to do 50 mph as I've only ever driven it at 40 mph"; relax, it'll be fine. You just have to learn to fly the thing, that's the scary part!

Edited May 20, 20224 yr by ckyliu

2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I am flying the DC6 now and my CPU is reading around 20%, and GPU about 45% with Vram about 35% so I guess I should be Ok then.  ??

Sounds like you should be good... how does the default C172 fly for you?, going by the OP's numbers the Fenix A320 would then be roughly 75% of the fps you're getting with the C172.