June 23, 20223 yr Fenix is the one I have the most fun with, but it’s a narrow margin over the others. Apart from being generally really well done, I’ve always really enjoyed the Airbus flying philosophy. Edited June 23, 20223 yr by regis9 Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
June 23, 20223 yr 100% 737 because....it’s the only one I’ve got😃. It’s also the first serious tube liner I’ve flown so I’ve got my hands full at the moment but it’s a lot of fun and it also works really well with my Neolithic pc🙃
June 23, 20223 yr All great aircraft in their own way, but for FUN? I'd have to go with the Maddog. It's an idiosyncratic mix of old and new with lots of quirks and surprises to keep a pilot on his toes. Every flight is a bit of an adventure. That's fun! [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
June 23, 20223 yr If you have a nice yoke (Thrustmaster Boeing, etc), the 737 is a blast fly. If you only use a joystick then the 320 might be a better purchase. Both are great and I go back and forth between them both. I had the MD80 in P3D and it took a lot of study to learn. If I did not fly it for a while I would forgot how to fly it. As the MD-80's are disappearing IRL, I did not bother getting it for MSFS but it was a very complete and impressive simulation in P3D... Edited June 23, 20223 yr by Flic1 Eric i9-12900k, RTX 5070ti OC, 32GB ddr5 5600 RAM, 2TB 980 Pro SSD, Titan 240RX AIO, Samsung CRG90 49", Win 11
June 23, 20223 yr Didnt purchase the MD for reasons stated in another thread. Flying the 737 and really enjoying it. Considering the similarity of the Fenix and the FBW NEO i have not been spending as much time with them as the workflows are similar and there's not much new to learn if doing a typical flight on my end. Whereby there is more to do and learn with the 737 so that AC gets most of my time these days. I guess when i master the typical flows then ill start looking at failures with both. Considering being a bit of a purist I'm looking forward to the 800 and on the Fenix side the IAE engines and winglets to round out the short haul fleet with the liveries i want to use. AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
June 23, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Bobsk8 said: They are on Discord constantly, working on some bugs and taking input for features users would like to be added. Don't know of any other developer that is so active talking with users. I meant more in terms of announcements and patches. Like, I can't save options in the EFB. Why is that basic functionality still broken? Then there are the much bigger items like the fact that the engine model is totally off and will need to be entirely replaced. I just worry that this is a new dev team that has bitten off more than they can chew.
June 23, 20223 yr Honestly, I think the FBW A32NX takes some beating, yes the others mentioned are amazing (I have them and fly a couple of them everyday). The FBW isn't that far off study level, comes with an amazing EFB and not only do you get this cake! You can eat it as well, because it's fun and free. https://flybywiresim.com/ P.S. It's also the only one with a dedicated co-pilot if you splash out for FS2Crew Edited June 23, 20223 yr by SierraHotel AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 4.2 32 gig ram, Nvidia RTX3060 12 gig, Intel 760 SSD M2 NVMe 512 gig, M2NVMe 1Tbt (OS) M2NVMe 2Tbt (MSFS) Crucial MX500 SSD (Backup OS). VR Oculus Quest 2 Windows 11 25H2 YouTube:- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC96wsF3D_h5GzNNJnuDH3WQ 2k+ Videos & Streams BATC and FSFO FB Group:- https://www.facebook.com/groups/1571953959750565 Flight Sim First Officer (FSFOv6) and SoFly Beta Tester Reality Is For People Who Can't Handle Simulation!
June 23, 20223 yr 26 minutes ago, Chapstick said: I meant more in terms of announcements and patches. Like, I can't save options in the EFB. Why is that basic functionality still broken? Then there are the much bigger items like the fact that the engine model is totally off and will need to be entirely replaced. I just worry that this is a new dev team that has bitten off more than they can chew. What they have bitten off is far better than anything else on MSFS....
June 23, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, lwt1971 said: Yup agree with Bob... if you're not particular about specific airliner types and ops, then the Fenix A320 is the best out there for MSFS currently. It is also the one that has taken the most advantage of the MSFS platform from visuals inside and out, to spatial soundscapes, to flight dynamics, systems, etc. But if you're very particular about flying the "more manual way" in Boeings rather than "fly by wire", then the PMDG 737 is for you (IMO it only lacks in interior visuals vs the Fenix, LNAV not as good, and also has no EFB currently but that's all being fixed for free soon). If you like old school flying then it's the MD80 They are all good, but I wouldn't describe the MD-80 as old school - moving map, fmc, auto throttle etc. If you actually want some more manual fun, rather than push some buttons and watch it fly itself, then go for the Just Flight BAe 146. No auto throttle, no moving map and a 'sync' function - engage sync so flight surfaces disconnect from autopilot, pitch up/down to change rate of climb or speed then disengage sync. It flies beautifully but you do have to plan and think more to be accurate. Edited June 23, 20223 yr by MrBitstFlyer CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
June 23, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, Torsen said: These two are actual pilot planes needing more "flying" skills than "managing" Completely agree with you. You often can't just press a button on the 146 to change something, you have to have a good think about it first. The sync function is really nice. For example, if you are descending at 700ft per minute, but you want to descend at 1000ft per minute, you engage sync. Sync disconnects the flight surfaces from the autopilot (which is still engaged). You then manually fly the aircraft by pitching down until you are descending at 1000ft per minute. You press sync again to re-connect the flying surfaces to the autopilot which will maintain the 1000ft per minute descent. I own all four of the 'study level' airliners and love them all, but when I want to fly, rather than manage, its the 146! CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
June 23, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Chapstick said: I meant more in terms of announcements and patches. Like, I can't save options in the EFB. Why is that basic functionality still broken? Then there are the much bigger items like the fact that the engine model is totally off and will need to be entirely replaced. I just worry that this is a new dev team that has bitten off more than they can chew. I can save options in the EFB just fine. You probably think they are saved in general, but they are saved per-livery. So you'll have to set them for every livery. So it's not broken, just differently working. That's why you should contact the developer to clarify before coming to a forum and (falsely) claiming that "basic functionality" is "still broken". Also the engine model is not "totally off", unless by "totally" you mean 6% less fuel burn on cruise altitude and too much thrust in the first climb phase. Actually I think it's in an astonishingly good shape for the deepest and most detailed product on MSFS and - on top of that - by an entirely new developer. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
June 23, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said: Also the engine model is not "totally off", unless by "totally" you mean 6% less fuel burn on cruise altitude and too much thrust in the first climb phase. And way too much drag on descent...and way off on the pitch/power curve... or else why would they even bother to completely re-model the engine. Did you ever attempt to land it with a x-wind > 10? Heh, don't get me started... 🙂 Edited June 23, 20223 yr by ha5mvo
June 23, 20223 yr 32 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said: I can save options in the EFB just fine. You probably think they are saved in general, but they are saved per-livery. So you'll have to set them for every livery. I understand how it's supposed to work, and that's not how it's working on my end. 28 minutes ago, ha5mvo said: And way too much drag on descent...and way off on the pitch/power curve... or else why would they even bother to completely re-model the engine. Did you ever attempt to land it with a x-wind > 10? Heh, don't get me started... 🙂 Yeah, it's more than just fuel burn. Thankfully, the Fenix devs themselves are way more receptive to feedback than their fans...
June 23, 20223 yr 56 minutes ago, Chapstick said: Thankfully, the Fenix devs themselves are way more receptive to feedback than their fans... haha that is a very true statement Lian Li 011 Air Mini | AMD 9800X3D | Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F | Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer II 280mm RGB | 2x32GB G.Skill DDR5-6000 | ASUS TUF RTX 5090 | Seasonic Prime Platinum 1000W | Pimax Crystal Light
June 24, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, ha5mvo said: Heh, don't get me started.. Please don't get started System: MSFS2024, ASUS Rog Stryx Z790-A, Intel i9-14900KF, Asus ROG Ryujin III 360 , Asus Hyperion Case,Rog Stryx 4090 OC, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD, 1Tb Samsung 860 EVO SSD,64Gb G Skill Memory, Asus Aura 1200W Gold PSU,Win 11 ,LG C4 48" 4K OLED Screen., Airbus TCA Full Kit, Stream Deck XL. WinWing FCU, EFIS, MCDU
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