Just received and email that the Black Square analog Bonanza has been updated.

 

https://support.justflight.com/support/solutions/articles/17000131967-analog-bonanza-msfs-changelog

 

14 minutes ago, Mike62 said:

Just received and email that the Black Square analog Bonanza has been updated

It was released yesterday. What took them so long? 😎😎😎

Edited March 10, 20233 yr by btacon

Just watched a great systems overview video of this Bonanza linked at Justflight.  As I watched it an unavoidable question entered my mind.  Has anyone heard recently from Robert Young?  These two Beech aircraft, the Black Square Bonanza and Baron, seem to me to have Robert Young written all over them. So reminiscent of the completeness of theTurbine Duke and Turbine Duke v2.  Is just my imagination? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97aaHYt-vDM&t=2s&ab_channel=JustFlight

Edited March 10, 20233 yr by fppilot

23 minutes ago, fppilot said:

Just watched a great systems overview video of this Bonanza linked at Justflight.  As I watched it an unavoidable question entered my mind.  Has anyone heard recently from Robert Young?  These two Beech aircraft, the Black Square Bonanza and Baron, seem to me to have Robert Young written all over them. So reminiscent of the completeness of theTurbine Duke and Turbine Duke v2.  Is just my imagination? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97aaHYt-vDM&t=2s&ab_channel=JustFlight

Ditto.  Did you get the aircraft yet?

59 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

Ditto.  Did you get the aircraft yet?

Not yet as I am totally wrapped up in the Hjet as I fly a pre-arranged sports schedule that has some distance involved and too little time for the study that both of these will require.  Both this Baron and Bonanza on definately on my list to acquire. I have not myself flown since 1985 and of course that was before GPS.  Most of my logged hours back then were in a B55 when in the military and B36 after separation.  To have the throwback gauge panels will put me in bliss, but certainly will require some "recertification", LOL!  I have likely not logged any strictly "needles" hours in simulators since 2008 or 2009.  My actual live right seat ride-alongs in a 310 from 2015 until late 2019 were all with GNS and later GTN panels. I have always favored the Beech models.

Edited March 10, 20233 yr by fppilot

Robert is dealing with significant RW issues and drops by here from time to time. He is not (to my knowledge) involved. I am waiting to hear how these fly… THAT’S where he has been mostly unmatched. I still miss my RealAir aircraft and his TN Bonanza is by far my favorite GA single in MSFS.

C

1 hour ago, cavaricooper said:

I am waiting to hear how these fly…

This one feels OK... at least to me.  In the air and on the ground.  Maybe too sensitive in pitch..

But Rob Young's MOI values were about double, so if the aircraft feels too nimble, you could revisit those.. going to try and will report back. And having tried it.. yes, merging Rob Young's flight model with this lovely airplane is not a bad way to go..

What remains for me:

If they can re-size the BK KI-256, I will be totally delighted with this purchase. 🙂

Edited March 11, 20233 yr by Bert Pieke

50 minutes ago, cavaricooper said:

Robert is dealing with significant RW issues and drops by here from time to time. He is not (to my knowledge) involved. I am waiting to hear how these fly… THAT’S where he has been mostly unmatched. I still miss my RealAir aircraft and his TN Bonanza is by far my favorite GA single in MSFS.

C

You'd be skipping the best GA on the market right now if you give this one a pass.

Wasn't Robert Young the dad in the TV series "Father Knows Best" ?

6 hours ago, fppilot said:

Just watched a great systems overview video of this Bonanza linked at Justflight.  As I watched it an unavoidable question entered my mind.  Has anyone heard recently from Robert Young?  These two Beech aircraft, the Black Square Bonanza and Baron, seem to me to have Robert Young written all over them. So reminiscent of the completeness of theTurbine Duke and Turbine Duke v2.  Is just my imagination? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97aaHYt-vDM&t=2s&ab_channel=JustFlight

You can follow the comments there for a page or two.

Ray

7 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

But Rob Young's MOI values were about double, so if the aircraft feels too nimble, you could revisit those.. going to try and will report back. And having tried it.. yes, merging Rob Young's flight model with this lovely airplane is not a bad way to go..

Thanks Bert, can you please clarify. Did you simply replace the flight_model.cfg file with Rob's, or did you change some particular values in it?

8 hours ago, gunther said:

Thanks Bert, can you please clarify. Did you simply replace the flight_model.cfg file with Rob's, or did you change some particular values in it?

Affirmative, no other changes..

Edited March 11, 20233 yr by Bert Pieke

16 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

But Rob Young's MOI values were about double

really, how did you find out? reminds me of the single-engine propeller aircraft in x-plane: torque/p-factor was correct but applied twice in their code. Austin pleaded guilty after long struggles with the community. 😀

10 minutes ago, turbomax said:

really, how did you find out? reminds me of the single-engine propeller aircraft in x-plane: torque/p-factor was correct but applied twice in their code. Austin pleaded guilty after long struggles with the community. 😀

If you compare the flight_model.cfg files, that is an obvious difference..

As I understand it, Rob Young chose the values based on feel, not based on physics.. and I happen to like the feel of his flight models. 🙂

Edited March 11, 20233 yr by Bert Pieke

1 hour ago, Bert Pieke said:

Affirmative, no other changes..

Hi Bert. Is that v 4.1 flight_model.cfg?

Edited March 11, 20233 yr by fppilot