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Black Square Analog Bonanza - Flight Dynamics??

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Has anyone who has installed the subject Black Square package on the G36 noticed changes in the Flight Dynamics, over the Asobo version?

In particular, does it fly more smoothly?

T45

Edited by Treetops45

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"This is the improvement project for the MSFS default G36. It all started as a simple edit of some configuration files but it has since grown into a fully-fledged modification that improves all aspects of the default G36 and introduces new features. This was made possible with the help of the community consisting of both enthusiasts and G36 pilots"

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/g36-improvement-project/216094

Edited by turbomax

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very nice.

Avsim must have a terrible reading comprehension problem…

To the OP…I feel bad that no one has taken the actual time to answer your specific question. 
 

I don’t have the black square mod yet. I have the king air one and I noticed that the airplane flies better with that mod installed. Hopefully it’s the same for the bonanza.

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1 hour ago, ahsmatt7 said:

Avsim must have a terrible reading comprehension problem…

To the OP…I feel bad that no one has taken the actual time to answer your specific question. 
 

I don’t have the black square mod yet. I have the king air one and I noticed that the airplane flies better with that mod installed. Hopefully it’s the same for the bonanza.

Well I did and if you read my link they talk about how it flys any adding RY flight mod to it.

"To the OP…I feel bad that no one has taken the actual time to answer your specific question. " or read properly the reply's

Edited by Nyxx

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I find it a bit too quick to react to the controls, especially in pitch..

Luckily you can merge the Rob Young flight model files (except for the Fuel section) and get the best of both worlds.  (see below)

Edited by Bert Pieke

Bert

I have not flown G36 but I  instructed some in V33. And it is sensitive for both pitch and power. It is especially noticeable while practicing ILS approaches. Small adjustment power (by rotating throttle knob) usually make smooth transition from cruise/descent climb. If you just push throttle forward like 172 you will feel a "kick" and put some stress on an engine.

 Bonanza also inherently stable if flown properly.  Pitch power and trim all it is need to fly. Although V tail has some lateral fishing but barely noticeable 🙂

I personally find G36 pretty much in par with my experience flying Bonanza and Deboinar      

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52 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

I find it a bit too quick to react to the controls, especially in pitch..

Luckily you can merge the Rob Young flight model file (except for the Fuel section) and get the best of both worlds.

Could you detail this modification please?

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1 hour ago, roland_lfor said:

Could you detail this modification please?

Replace the ai.cfg and flight_model.cfg files by the Rob Young version (rename the originals), and then replace the Fuel section in the flight_model.cfg file by the original.

Edited by Bert Pieke

Bert

There is some controversy on the main forums about claims the drag is excessive with flaps out, requiring higher mp on approach then is realistic. I have not heard too many other complaints.

16 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

There is some controversy on the main forums about claims the drag is excessive with flaps out, requiring higher mp on approach then is realistic. I have not heard too many other complaints.

Is that not the King Air? 😉

Bert

37 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

Is that not the King Air? 😉

My bad, was not the Analog Bonanza.

The controversy I came across was actually around the approach performance of the Milviz c310 and revolved around a claimed excess drag coefficient and drag scalar with flaps extended in the 310.

I was confused.

Edited by Glenn Fitzpatrick

6 hours ago, ahsmatt7 said:

I have the king air one and I noticed that the airplane flies better with that mod installed

Well, it may fly better in certain respects than the default...but it has way too much flap drag for final approach, that's for sure (the KA I mean). Also way too much reverse thrust.

Edited by hangar

5 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

I find it a bit too quick to react to the controls, especially in pitch..

Luckily you can merge the Rob Young flight model files (except for the Fuel section) and get the best of both worlds.  (see below)

Thanks Bert, would there be any issue using Rob's files with the turbocharged Bonanza or does the different engine type not matter for what these files modify?

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