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Blacksquare TBM 850 released

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On 10/5/2023 at 7:45 AM, ryanbatc said:

Hurray!

I have some repaints for you all 🙂

I hope others will release their own!

https://flightsim.to/profile/ryanbatc

I plan to do a few more... when time permits

Thanks to @Tim-HH for this beautiful shot of N852PS

Oh, and all paints can have a custom/dynamic registration. Though the paints are designed with the real tail number in mind...some custom numbers my overlap the paint a bit.

53236310423_79974d5d19_o.jpgScreenshot (179) by Ryan Butterworth, on Flickr

Untitled-13 by Ryan Butterworth, on Flickr

Untitled-1 by Ryan Butterworth, on Flickr

 

Grabbed this livery for my 850.  Absolutely love how it looks.  Fantastic work, Ryan.  

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11 minutes ago, Little Jenny said:

Grabbed this livery for my 850.  Absolutely love how it looks.  Fantastic work, Ryan.  

Thanks.  The newer metal look was done by Steve Dra

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8 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

Thanks.  The newer metal look was done by Steve Dra

Ah, well I better thank him then too!  

5 hours ago, Lmaire said:

I also have a question (I've tried via the Just flight forum hours ago but no answer yet) . I was cruising at FL290 and suddenly power (torque) starting decreasing. Any idea why?. (I kept all engine parameters in green arc). Many thanks.

Icing?  Did you check to make sure there weren't any failures?  I suffered an engine surge with only 5 hours of babying the engine. 

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On 10/6/2023 at 1:39 PM, Steve Dra said:

Just noticed that @jankees painted it for the default 930....maybe he'll paint it for this beauty?

I have no plans for this model, too similar to the Asobo one for my liking, but I see it's done already

Edited by jankees

All my FSX/P3D repaints are here on Avsim, for my MSFS repaints, go to FS.2

8 hours ago, Orlaam said:

Icing?  Did you check to make sure there weren't any failures?  I suffered an engine surge with only 5 hours of babying the engine. 

No ice visible and no alarm but maybe i should had have a better look to all system. I'll see next time. Many thanks.

Real Deraps

9 hours ago, jankees said:

I have no plans for this model, too similar to the Asobo one for my liking, but I see it's done already

LOL...yeah looks like @Tim-HH knocked her out....

https://flightsim.to/file/61890/black-square-tbm-850-n422az-dynamic-registration

 

Great job Tim!  Will be wearing my darkest sunglasses when walking up to her on the ramp on a sunny day! 🤣

Edited by Steve Dra

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13 hours ago, Little Jenny said:

Ah, well I better thank him then too!  

No thanks necessary....just knowing folks are enjoying the work us painters put into our projects is thanks enough. 🙂

I had a vested interest as this is my favorite livery as well, and could lend my metallic expertise to the paint was worth it just for my own benefit...but us painter's usually like to share. 😉  

Here she is with the updated metal

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Edited by Steve Dra

Regards,
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Another video on Virtual Vor navigation with Rnav. This one is KNS80 in the BS TBM

 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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On 10/8/2023 at 5:19 AM, sd_flyer said:

I'm little disappointed of missing animation of deicing boots. I think Asobo TBM has it 

Yeah if you are using the full checklist you are supposed to check them which is hard to do if not animated 😄

Good news is,  they are working on that and it may even make the next update.

42 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

Yeah if you are using the full checklist you are supposed to check them which is hard to do if not animated 😄

Good news is,  they are working on that and it may even make the next update.

That would be cool.  Personally, I would like some better sounds, or more specifically, louder alerts.  The AP system (altitude, AP disco, DH) are all way too quiet.  I saw someone say the P-factor and other pull physics were too mild.  I would normally agree, but with the ground physics in this sim, it becomes almost unmanageable in a crosswind with some add ons.  The PMDG and A2A Comanche are two that will easily topple over in a crosswind if you correct too much.  It's a bit ridiculous when you can't stay on the center line in 10 knots without rolling the wing into the runway.  There needs to be a happy balance between realism and enjoyment.  I think that's one thing that always brings me back to the Black Square, besides the analog gauges, the fact that I can land and not have a flight ruined by a minor wind component. 

Out of all the requests made on here and FJ forums, mine would be sounds (mainly loudness of alerts), slight tweaking of handling to be heavier (not critical however), making landing lights better in external view (Baron needs this as well), improvement of AP in banks (she overshoots higher angle waypoints).  Overall, it's nearly perfect though and I haven't flown anything else since I bought it last week.  🙃

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I’ve been really enjoying this plane a lot. It’s a ton of fun and has excellent performance and handling characteristics. The only thing I’ll ask is for brighter landing and taxi lights. This sky color mod has been driving me to enjoy sunsets and it’s usually pretty dark upon landing. I’m using an HDR OLED monitor, so when it’s dark out, it’s super dark. Just tonight I had to gauge my flare by looking out of a side window because the light illumination wasn’t strong enough. If there are any talented modders out there, it’d be greatly appreciated. 

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3 hours ago, V1ROTA7E said:

I’ve been really enjoying this plane a lot. It’s a ton of fun and has excellent performance and handling characteristics. The only thing I’ll ask is for brighter landing and taxi lights. This sky color mod has been driving me to enjoy sunsets and it’s usually pretty dark upon landing. I’m using an HDR OLED monitor, so when it’s dark out, it’s super dark. Just tonight I had to gauge my flare by looking out of a side window because the light illumination wasn’t strong enough. If there are any talented modders out there, it’d be greatly appreciated. 

Crazy.  I use an IPS monitor and the lights are very bright on the ground 🤣

Here is how runways appear to me on an IPS panel.  I make make it darker, but this seems the best compromise.  There are times it's so dark I can't see much outside, but all of my add-ons have rather bright taxi/landing lights.

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Edited by Orlaam

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https://community.justflight.com/topic/5488/my-thoughts-on-the-tbm850-atfer-a-few-days/2?_=1696827626459

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Improved sound - I am considering this for a future update. As the TBM 850 was originally conceived as another Steam Gauge Overhaul, all the sounds were done by the time we decided to make it a full aircraft. The Turbine Duke will require a suite of PT-6 sounds, so it will likely come after that. There are beta and reverse sounds in the current implementation, though.

Flying model - There will be a major update to this in the coming week. The current performance is within 2% of the book numbers, so this will be an update predominantly to the "feel" of the aircraft. The propeller torque will be increased. There should be no reason for a pitch change after takeoff, but I will look carefully for it today.

Better method of selecting reverse - The current method is used for every other aircraft I have ever tested for MSFS, which is the native reverse binding. If you have an idea for an improved system, I am all ears, and I can attempt to create it.

Better external lighting - I have increased the brightness of the exterior lights, and I have a new strobe system that I'm testing out that will necessitate turning them off when in low visibility. The new strobes are volumetric. The reason the landing light emissive mesh does not look excellent is a limitation of the renderer regarding small objects that are culled at greater viewing distances. If we find a solution for this, I will be the first one to include it.

Does the AMP metre work - This is one of the headlining features of Black Square aircraft. It very much works, and the current draw is calculated for every system on the aircraft, as well as the resulting heat. If the charging current is not significant after starting, it simply means you didn't drain the battery very much.

Is hypxo possible - This is something I have long wanted to implement. If you have an example aircraft for which this works in MSFS, please let me know so I can look into how the effect works!

Improved overhead back lighting - As far as I'm aware, there is no backlighting on the TBM 850's overhead panel, which differs from the later models. The overhead panel is illuminated by the post lights on the ceiling, which are controlled by the INST LIGHTING knob.

Exhaust to continue to shows signs of heat after shutdown - Do you mean the exhaust shimmering visual effect? This is theoretically possible, but it is a little above my current skills, as I believe the heat shimmer effects in MSFS are hardcoded.

Main door - This was done on purpose, unfortunately. I make very few compromises for realism in my aircraft, but I had images of how many streamers/YouTubers would not know this nuance, and think the pressurization system was non-functional because they did not properly latch the door.

Visible inflation of de-ice boots - Already done. Next update.

Headset plugin - This would require a custom sound set. I will look into this for a TBM update, and the Dukes.

Wheel chocks and covers - Wheel chocks are done, because they serve the purpose of keeping the aircraft still while the brakes are off. I will consider covers, as well.

Tray table and window blinds that function - This would take a significant change to the model, unfortunately. This was because of the Steam Gauge Overhaul origins of this aircraft, again. I will consider it, but I promise you a working table in the Duke.

Thank you for all the feedback! While I apologize that I cannot get to every request, I think you will be very happy with the next update this week. The changelog is already two pages long!

Hope that helps and answers all of your points.

 

Edited by Glenn Fitzpatrick

3 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

I look forward to it!  I have had one weird thing happen a couple times.  The sound will become very vacuum sounding.  I can reset it by going external. 

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