Blacksquare TBM 850 released

[Steve Dra]

7 minutes ago, jon b said:

I suppose I should really get around to updating that ..

RIP Queen Mother! 😞 

[Fielder]

Looks like the a date tag on the engine is August 2006. (The flying A because is from Avangel review on YT). (Nice level of detail by BlackSquare. Plane is supposed to be a 2006 version with steam gauges.).

 

 

 

[Fielder]

Optional full retro radios....

 

 

 

[jon b]

2 hours ago, Steve Dra said:

Sublime.

 

2 hours ago, vrdubin6 said:

Some have said they feel it's light on the controls and a bit twitchy but I hand flew my first little 100nm flight last night and I thought it handled really well. 

 

1 hour ago, Redge said:

I’ve been shooting approaches in this thing, down to minimums all day in the fog of New England and upstate New York. It performs beautifully. No twitchiness for me, at least and the FPS are excellent on my three-year-old system.  

You weren't wrong !

Just done a couple of circuits and a landing config stall, a cracking little plane. It's one of those rare, special add ons that genuinely feels like you're sat in a real aircraft cockpit    

[Fielder]

I doubt the virtual KNS 80 radio, above the ADF unit, can do all that the original could. As I read descriptions online, the KNS 80 allowed electronically "moving" the VOR transmitter down on the ground below you to wherever you wished it really was located. Apparently GPS came into being later and killed this amazing do all radio's sales.

[turbomax]

the KNS-80/81 was already included in the Black Square’s Analog King Air and Caravan - Steam Gauge Overhaul and Analog Bonanza and Baron,  (KNS 81). referring to the other TBM 850 thread re. reading the manual 😁, it is described in much detail: "Using the KNS-81 RNAV Navigation System" that comes with the aircraft.

Navigation by going DIRECT ANYWHERE! KNS81 Explained

https://dxhb0it26is40.cloudfront.net/manuals/BKSQ_TBM850Manual.pdf

 

King/Bendix KNS 80: Aera Navigation RNAV device: precursor to later GPS technology when radio navigation depended on ground station reception exclusively. this enabled flying a direct line between two waypoints, anywhere without having to intercept/follow VOR radials. you could define a new waypoint (the KNS80 placed a new virtual VOR station at the desired intersection of 2 VOR radials) above your house and fly DIRECT to this waypoint even though there might not be a waypoint in any official NavDatabase at that location.

"Area navigation (RNAV) is a method
of point-to-point navigation along any
desired course within the service area of
a VOR/DME (VORTAC) station, without the
need for flight over the station. This course
is defined by “waypoints".

https://www.bendixking.com/content/dam/bendixking/en/documents/document-lists/downloads-and-manuals/006-08307-0004-KNS-80-Pilots-Guide.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_navigation

the KNS 80/81 is outdated by today's GPS standard, but still fun if you learned to fly on all-analog instruments and without modern GPS.

Edited October 6, 2023 by turbomax

[dusty_sourdough907]

2 hours ago, jon b said:

I suppose I should really get around to updating that ..

That's kind of a tough one...in a way.

[daowl24]

7 hours ago, OuterMarker said:

It's likely not related to the GTN, I thought so as well when I bought the Bonanza and the TDS GTN at the same time. Welcome to the club: https://community.justflight.com/topic/4718/a36-bonanza-weather-radar-causing-stutters/3

In my case, thanks to Ryans hint, the problem disappeared. I have added the defender exclusions and so far have done two vatsim flights in VR, with the gtn and weather radar active, v pilot and another bunch of programs running on the second monitor. Smooth and stable. Good to know that the weather radar is a possible issue, too.

EDIT: Had a look at the topic in their forums, my flights were only just about an hour long. Anyway, without the defender exclusions, the frames went down after mere 30 minutes.

Edited October 6, 2023 by daowl24

[Matchstick]

2 hours ago, Fielder said:

I doubt the virtual KNS 80 radio, above the ADF unit, can do all that the original could. As I read descriptions online, the KNS 80 allowed electronically "moving" the VOR transmitter down on the ground below you to wherever you wished it really was located. Apparently GPS came into being later and killed this amazing do all radio's sales.

That's exactly what the Black Square versions of KNS-80 and KNS-81 (a smaller unit used in their Baron and Bonanza) can do.
They are (almost) fully modelled RNAV units that allow you to navigate to an arbitrary offset from a VOR as if it was the VOR itself. The major limitation is it can't hook into the MSFS Autopilot (yet), so while you get the steering information on the HSI (and distance on the DME) you need to either fly the route by hand or steer the AP manually in heading mode.

If you're curious about what Black Square have modelled with these instruments, grab the manual for any of aircraft from their Just Flight store page and check out the details in there.

Edited October 6, 2023 by Matchstick

[Fielder]

Thanks, I never knew that. Time for me to read the manual... 🙂

[kdfw__]

anyone able to do a LNAV GPS LPV approach using the pms gtn750? vert guidance not showing up in eadi/hsi for some reason.  ILS works fine.

Edited October 7, 2023 by kdfw__

[turbomax]

2 hours ago, Fielder said:

Thanks, I never knew that.

perhaps you are too young to have come across them, the King/Bendix KNS 80/81 RNAV now is a cumbersome retro device that became obsolete when GPS entered the cockpit, ca. 25 years ago. but I appreciate that BlackSquare included them as an option for those who grew up with them. back then they were latest state of the art and helped to eliminate navigation overload, especially in single pilot IFR.

[klamal]

On 10/5/2023 at 10:35 PM, YukonPete said:

I'm having problems with mine. My digital numbers on my altimeter are blank. I can't enter alt pressure, as it's blank. I have redownloaded and the issue continues. Anyone else having this problem?

Have you figured this out? I’m having the same issue. Follow all the checklists but can’t get the digital numbers to show on the altimeter nor the outside air temperature gauge.

[JaseMelbo]

38 minutes ago, klamal said:

Have you figured this out? I’m having the same issue. Follow all the checklists but can’t get the digital numbers to show on the altimeter nor the outside air temperature gauge.

https://community.justflight.com/topic/5463/tbm850-was-it-even-beta-tested

Have a read over this and see if that helps.

Jase

Edited October 7, 2023 by JaseMelbo

[kdfw__]

8 hours ago, kdfw__ said:

anyone able to do a LNAV GPS LPV approach using the pms gtn750? vert guidance not showing up in eadi/hsi for some reason.  ILS works fine.

note to self: today's pms50 update plus tbm wtt mode release fixed the lpv issue.