2 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

Just the letters

WOW, this guy is a IRL pilot?  Laterally he was missed way back at the IAF and also overshot the FAC by a mile.  This plane still has a way to go, but good start. It still needs a bunch of LNAV and VNAV adjustments as well as a ton of other stuff that's on the NEOs from the FMGC on up.  Some are probably operator options but would be nice to see them.  This honestly looks more like a CEO with a NEO model, but for a replacement of the default bus, good start.

Edited November 23, 20232 yr by Jeff Nielsen

On 11/22/2023 at 6:16 PM, carlanthony24 said:

This is what is wrong with some people in the flightsim community. Jumping to conclusions.

In your first post about this, you jumped to a rather large conclusion that the Reddit poster probably wasn't a real member of FBW. (Which FBW have pointed out they were).  Also, your 'jumped to' conclusion was that there is nothing of substance in this potential claim. How do you know that?          

Jumping to conclusions works both ways.

Edited November 23, 20232 yr by JYW

38 minutes ago, JYW said:

In your first post about this, you jumped to a rather large conclusion that the Reddit poster probably wasn't a real member of FBW. (Which FBW have pointed out they were).  Also, your 'jumped to' conclusion was that there is nothing of substance in this potential claim. How do you know that?          

Jumping to conclusions works both ways.

If you read on further I explained I never saw the tweet so I apologised thought I had edited the post. Oh well.  You also said you did not believe they were a genuine member 

What I said the evidence when you looked at each one did not support what he was saying which is an opinion of mine. It looked to me like he was comparing the coding from the FBW and Inibuilds but the pictures showed different from what I could see. its not a conclusion its what I literally can see from viewing the images. First two images one is just a text file with text saying A310 hes saying its from the 320. We don't know that for certain since its cropped, and is a little different from the code he showed of the FBW. Then the other four images show code from the Inibuilds aircraft but nothing to match from FBW. You would think he would show a side by side comparison for the other images to back his point up. "it appears they’re compiling our JS files into WASM with a custom runtime". No evidence to support that though like I said. 

The wording used Court of public opinion its more like the guy is really asking for trouble like a lot have said in the comments. You just don't make things like this public not only will it damage himself but damage FBW and Inibuilds. Its not a conclusion its just an opinion but people saying they won't support Inibuilds without the facts is jumping to conclusions. Sorry some people may not like this but not going to lose sleep over this. I will carry on supporting no matter what. I wonder how many of these said they would not support FSLabs because of what they did but still buy products from them....

No announcement from any company since this happened besides they won't comment at this time. My opinion maybe its been swept under the carpet and does not need talking about, maybe the guy exaggerated with what he said and they did not steal but used similar code. To say oh "I'm not supporting Inibuilds because of this is silly when we literally don't have full facts. 

Edited November 23, 20232 yr by carlanthony24

Yawn.

On 11/21/2023 at 1:49 PM, mspencer said:

As mentioned by someone who seems knowledgeable in GPL, the fact that the ini A320 is being released alongside MSFS using GPL code necessitates the entire program being open source under GPL, but I’m not sure how true that is. It would be a huge, huge issue that ini got MS into if it’s true. 

That's not at all how it works. MSFS is MS' property - THEY decide how it's licensed, not some downstream dev.

10 hours ago, Jeff Nielsen said:

WOW, this guy is a IRL pilot?  Laterally he was missed way back at the IAF and also overshot the FAC by a mile.  This plane still has a way to go, but good start. It still needs a bunch of LNAV and VNAV adjustments as well as a ton of other stuff that's on the NEOs from the FMGC on up.  Some are probably operator options but would be nice to see them.  This honestly looks more like a CEO with a NEO model, but for a replacement of the default bus, good start.

737NGDriver has no clue how to fly IAN mode in a 737 and he's supposed to be a 737 Driver.

After pointing out all the obvious issues and Pmdg bugs with this recent IAN tutorial on youtube comments, it was so embarrassing he had to Delete my comments.

Also, he is a straight up Pmdg fan as always. Just watch the four or more videos on the EFB for 737. And he's "review" of Zibo 737 and Final "conclusion" was so obviously Biased.

Beware this guy who is spreading the Real MisInformation.

Edited November 24, 20232 yr by Greazer

1 minute ago, Greazer said:

737NGDriver has no clue how to fly IAN mode in a 737 and he's supposed to be a 737 Driver.

After pointing out all the obvious issues with this recent IAN tutorial on youtube comments, it was so embarrassing he had to Delete my comments.

Also, he is a straight up Pmdg word not allowed every time. Just watch the four or more videos on the EFB for 737. And he's "review" of Zibo 737 and Final "conclusion" was so obviously Biased.

Beware this guy who is spreading the Real MisInformation.

I don't care if he's biased or not, an approach is an approach.  The basics don't change from airplane to the other.  You need to have those right from the start...lol.  Like your ANP over/under your RNP.  Cross track errors, specifically in this video.  In all reality, if he's a 37 driver, he should be more hyper aware and potentially more knowledgeable of these issues even in other airplanes and know how to spot them.  The 37 even has a VSD.  I mean, I'm just a lowly PPL, C'mon 🙂 

I follow this guy since long time and I find his tutorials very useful. 

He is (or used to be) part of the technical advisors team at PMDG, of course he's biased towards the PMDG 737.  

He publishes regularly lots of free content and his real name can be found very easily. Maybe he tells 99 things right and one thing wrong, IMHO not a good reason to talk behind his back like this.  

7 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said:

I follow this guy since long time and I find his tutorials very useful. 

He is (or used to be) part of the technical advisors team at PMDG, of course he's biased towards the PMDG 737.  

He publishes regularly lots of free content and his real name can be found very easily. Maybe he tells 99 things right and one thing wrong, IMHO not a good reason to talk behind his back like this.  

If he has the right to 'publicly" comment about another product in a video he made, then we surely have the right to comment on his review in a 'public' forum.  That's not really what I'd call behind his back.  

I'm not trying to be mean to him, but let's be honest, he actually got 99 things wrong and maybe one thing right.  I'm sure he's a good guy.  

Edit, now in his defense, I'm sure he was generalizing for 'sim' purposes and for users who may not know the ins and outs of things.

Edited November 24, 20232 yr by Jeff Nielsen

7 hours ago, Jeff Nielsen said:

In all reality, if he's a 37 driver,

He used to be. Now he is an A330 Driver.

On 11/21/2023 at 6:49 PM, mspencer said:

As mentioned by someone who seems knowledgeable in GPL, the fact that the ini A320 is being released alongside MSFS using GPL code necessitates the entire program being open source under GPL, but I’m not sure how true that is. It would be a huge, huge issue that ini got MS into if it’s true. 

That’s not how GPL works. The FBW A320 is GPL, and has been available for MSFS for a long time, but that does not mean that the source code for MSFS itself has to be published just because it contains a GPL add-on.

Any stand-alone project using GPL has to make its source code freely available to anyone who wants to use it. FBW has indeed done this. I believe the FBW project code is published on GitHub.

And, there is absolutely nothing wrong with inibuilds “borrowing” code from FBW for use in their own project. The freedom to do that is the whole point and purpose of GPL. But if they do so, they must give proper attribution, and make their own project open source under GPL. If they do not want to do that, then they must remove any GPL code from their project.

This is something that could (and should) have been worked out privately between inibuilds and FBW - the person who posted on Reddit has done neither developer any favors by going public with information that he had no business revealing.

9 hours ago, Jeff Nielsen said:

 I'm sure he's a good guy.  

He reads this forum definitely. I noted he's stopped using famous "Now". And switched to "OKey! Cool!". 👍🏻

Why do we always go from talking about an airplane to peoples' youtube channels?

10 hours ago, MrFuzzy said:

I follow this guy since long time and I find his tutorials very useful. 

He is (or used to be) part of the technical advisors team at PMDG, of course he's biased towards the PMDG 737.  

He publishes regularly lots of free content and his real name can be found very easily. Maybe he tells 99 things right and one thing wrong, IMHO not a good reason to talk behind his back like this.  

But its okay for him to talk word not allowed on developers and try to compare everything to the 330 he now fly's which he has had to be corrected on numerous amount of times. Even with the FSS 175 he keeps saying this is not how it works this should be doing it like that. He has no clue how to fly it and has been told in the comments but they get deleted most of the time....

46 minutes ago, Dreamflight767 said:

Why do we always go from talking about an airplane to peoples' youtube channels?

Would be a lot better if people actually showed other streamers that know what they are on about and not biased in my opinion. In the RNAV video he was trying to compare things to the 330 saying this is not correct etc, when in fact it is because some of the similarities are different and and don't follow the 330 logic same when he tried to say the Fenix is wrong and got shot down very quickly by a lot of people because he could not stop comparing it to the 330.

Edited November 24, 20232 yr by carlanthony24