27 minutes ago, psychedelic_tortilla said:

You mean with the TDS? Hmm, might have to check again...the installer is already glowing red-hot with this plane 😉

 

No not with TDS. with stock GNS 520/430

25 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

No not with TDS. with stock GNS 520/430

Aaah alright! Yeah with the GNS there never were any problems, only with the TDS NXi. 

So is the rudder aileron interconnect a feature of the real aircraft or is it a design feature of the msfs version to work around rudder and adverse yaw issues?

I find it to be tricky on landing in a cross wind which may require some decrabbing or cross controlling at the last moments. And in a crosswind you want to land with the crosswind side wing lower so I’m not sure about how this can work…are the controls linked in the real a/c then?

im enjoying the aircraft but takeoff and landing transitions in even mild crosswinds are quite wild. 
 

also is this aircraft supposed to be landing / flares right on the stall speed?

9 minutes ago, Purr said:

So is the rudder aileron interconnect a feature of the real aircraft or is it a design feature of the msfs version to work around rudder and adverse yaw issues?

The real aircraft has this madness and the sim version is trying to emulate it.

3 minutes ago, Jazz said:

The real aircraft has this madness and the sim version is trying to emulate it.

That’s some weird design coming from the Swiss….weird that I’ve read a fair bit about the pc12 and some pilot flight reviews but not come across this(!)…must have missed it.

9 hours ago, A320_SX ALX said:

@JYW the sun visor can be easily used with the scroll wheel, it only has 10 positions. Because it is indeed a nuisance, click its pivot point on the ceiling and it will automatically be stowed to neutral. Thank SimAcoustics for the idea he gave me.

That is excellent!

Thanks for pointing this out.  I've now completed 4 flights in the PC-12 and have enjoyed each one more and more.  It's a superb, immersive aircraft.  Congratulations on it's release.

9 hours ago, turbomax said:

for those who own both PC-12: considering the usual  Carenado bashing, what (if) does this PC-12 have that the Carenado version does not have?

Immersion factor.

I know it's subjective, but the Carenado is just very clinical and feels like any other Carenado aircraft.  The sounds in this PC-12 are possibly the best I've heard in MSFS to date.   The texturing and gauges in the cockpit are absolutely beautiful.

And the Carendo wil never be updated or revisited.  This one has an enhancement product coming in the future, to add failures etc.

I'd really recommend it if you want the best PC-12 you can get in the sim at this point.   It's not perfect and the FDE is still a little strange (could be realistic).  you need to be very well established on approach, otherwise power changes will really upset your glidepath.

But it's a lot of fun and very immersive.

7 hours ago, psychedelic_tortilla said:

And another thing that came to mind:

The fact that you have to choose which GPS navigator you want to use at installation and that's then the only option you have available is...let's call it "not state of the art" anymore. That's what I mean by "feels like a release from two years ago". 

Yes, agreed. The Blacksquare switches on the panel to choose GPS are nice.

37 minutes ago, Purr said:

So is the rudder aileron interconnect a feature of the real aircraft or is it a design feature of the msfs version to work around rudder and adverse yaw issues?

Take a look at this video (from 2:16) :-

Look at the yoke moving like crazy, as he steers with the pedals.   So yes, it's a real feature.  Not sure why they decided the aircraft needed it though.
 

 

Edited December 7, 20232 yr by JYW

18 hours ago, JYW said:

'British Avgeek' stated "it may just be one of the most detailed single engine prop planes in MSFS",

Don't agree with that!  The PC-12 is good, but is a level below the FSR500 or Blacksquare TBM850.  The initial bugs are not an issue for me, especially as the first patch was out in a few hours. Until failures/hot starts etc are included, the other two products are better - the FSR500 with its fuel and passenger loading add a good deal to the experience AND it's systems are fully featured at release.

3 hours ago, Sonosusto said:

Fidelity

more detail than I ever hoped for.

29 minutes ago, JYW said:

And the Carendo wil never be updated or revisited.

because it has already been updated and revisited?

do you own both versions?

7 minutes ago, turbomax said:

because it has already been updated and revisited?

do you own both versions?

Yes, I own them both.   I wouldn't have tried to help by offering an view if I didn't own them both. 😃

I meant from this point on, the CAR PC-12 will not be developed further.  I'd highly doubt that 2 years after it's release, Carenado are going to add additional features.  It's not a bad aircraft the CAR model.  But the SWS is already leagues ahead in sound, texturing, animations, etc.

And the SWS PC-12 has a published path of further development.   They've said they are creating a complexity enhancement that adds failures, etc.

Edited December 7, 20232 yr by JYW

24 minutes ago, turbomax said:

because it has already been updated and revisited?

do you own both versions?

I have both and as you probably suspect Carenado FM is subpar. I do have a good friend who used to fly PC-12 (now he flies Global Express), I'll get him to try it in MSFS at some point to get some tips and feedback  

Hi - I will be picking this up for sure.  Can anyone let me know how Beta range works on this?  Is it similar to the TBM 850?  On the FSR500, I have a curve set up on my Throttle range to make it work in a similar manner to the TBM where bottom 15% of throttle range is beta..  I watched a couple videos and read the manual but have not seen anything mentioned.  Thanks!