1 hour ago, Krakin said:

Let me know if I'm off base concerning what you were thinking

Well, Bob already let us know that if 'you can't figure out what he meant, him explaining it probably won't help' 😁

Congrats to PMDG. Impressive numbers.

Edited June 26, 20241 yr by Rimshot

Wow. 6000 first 3 minutes. 2000 per minute is amazing. As long as the addon is good, it will sell in MSFS.

35 minutes ago, flying_carpet said:

I can't imagine what my local gourmet restaurant is thinking now, after reading that McDonalds has introduced a new burger and sold millions within 1 hour.

C'mon people, we have had this kind of discussions since "ever". BTW, have you (gate.keepers specifically 🤣) realized, this thread is about the PMDG 777 - if I read it correct ... I might be wrong, though (please tell me, whether I misunderstood the title).

Gourmet food is pleasing to the taste and attractive to the eyes................

45 minutes ago, flying_carpet said:

I can't imagine what my local gourmet restaurant is thinking now, after reading that McDonalds has introduced a new burger and sold millions within 1 hour.

What a terrible analogy. The PMDG 777 is selling at $77.73 USD. This probably makes the PMDG 777 within the top 1% most expensive add-ons for MSFS.  The PMDG 777 is your definition of a "gourmet restaurant" based on its pricing. The fact that something so expensive, what you call "gourmet," is selling 6000 copies within 3 minutes, tells you the market size of MSFS.

A "McDonalds" add-on in MSFS is probably around the $5 range, or at least below $10.  Huge difference PMDG add-on and other cheap add-ons in MSFS.

Edited June 26, 20241 yr by abrams_tank

6 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

What a terrible analogy. The PMDG 777 is selling at $77.73 USD. This probably makes the PMDG 777 within the top 1% most expensive add-ons for MSFS.  The PMDG 777 is your definition of "gourmet restaurant" based on its pricing. The fact that something so expensive, what you call "gourmet," is selling 6000 copies within 3 minutes, tells you the market size of MSFS.

This hilarious analogy is a coping mechanism for those who can't stand the current situation (for all the usual reasons).. so they try to cast the PMDG 777 as something low-end in order to explain away the ultra-fast high-volume sales, while also making the glaring logic error you mentioned about how the price point that makes their point fall flat on its face 🤣 .. it's all adorably funny though, bless their hearts.
 

Edited June 26, 20241 yr by lwt1971

17 minutes ago, brinx said:

Wow. 6000 first 3 minutes. 2000 per minute is amazing. As long as the addon is good, it will sell in MSFS.

Indeed.. high quality always sells, and PMDG is known for that.  Like others have said, I've never known an add-on at a price point of $77+ sell this incredibly well and so incredibly fast in the first few minutes in all my years of simming on various platforms. Speaks volumes for PMDG, and also of course the current market appetite for high fidelity add-ons in MSFS.
 

Edited June 26, 20241 yr by lwt1971

59 minutes ago, flying_carpet said:

I can't imagine what my local gourmet restaurant is thinking now, after reading that McDonalds has introduced a new burger and sold millions within 1 hour

Lol, this is just plain silly. Have fun with your sim of choice.

18 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

This hilarious analogy is a coping mechanism for those who can't stand the current situation (for all the usual reasons).. so they try to cast the PMDG 777 as something low-end in order to explain away the ultra-fast high-volume sales, while also making the glaring logic error you mentioned about how the price point that makes their point fall flat on its face 🤣 .. it's all adorably funny though, bless their hearts.
 

Oh you gotta feel for them. With MS having a fantastic FSExpo where they made 2024 even more tantalizing and solidified it as a sim for simmers by demonstrating improved physics and a default flight planner with charts and now PMDG experiencing amazing success on the 2020 platform.....it has to be tough 😞. I don't even want to imagine the pain that will be felt when 2024 launches 😞

5 hours ago, Krakin said:

Totally agree with you there. That meme price of $77.73 is just goofy and we live in a time where a studio like Fenix can offer us their fantastic A320 for under $60. I'm gonna get this on sale, same as I did with the 737.

Since when is the Fenix less than $60? IIRC, it's almost $70 USD.

Which ain't that far from the 777...

16 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

Since when is the Fenix less than $60? IIRC, it's almost $70 USD.

Which ain't that far from the 777...

Right now £49.99 would be $63.12

56 minutes ago, Krakin said:

Gourmet food is pleasing to the taste and attractive to the eyes................

And for some the taste is more important than the look. Not really hard to understand.

6 minutes ago, Franz007 said:

And for some the taste is more important than the look. Not really hard to understand.

And the analogy is stupid. That really isn't hard to understand. Really cute how you guys parrot every little hot take Austin spews.

1 hour ago, abrams_tank said:

The PMDG 777 is your definition of a "gourmet restaurant" based on its pricing. The fact that something so expensive, what you call "gourmet," is selling 6000 copies within 3 minutes, tells you the market size of MSFS.

I am not sure if you understood the analogy. The expensive XXL Big Mac from McDonalds doesn‘t make it a gourmet-product compared to a gourmet-restaurant. And i had zero doubt that PMDG would sell well. But how do these 6000 copies in 3 minutes compare to the numbers for FSX/P3D, knowing they had a 10x lower userbase? Without any comparison this number say little to nothing for a 15Mio userbase, knowing that their biggest fans will get it as early as they can and that this selling-rate will flatten down. Was the same with FSX.

9 minutes ago, Krakin said:

And the analogy is stupid. That really isn't hard to understand. Really cute how you guys parrot every little hot take Austin spews.

You seem confused. What does Austin has to do with the way the analogy was meant (and that you didn‘t understand)?

21 minutes ago, Franz007 said:

I am not sure if you understood the analogy. The expensive XXL Big Mac from McDonalds doesn‘t make it a gourmet-product compared to a gourmet-restaurant. And i had zero doubt that PMDG would sell well. But how do these 6000 copies in 3 minutes compare to the numbers for FSX/P3D, knowing they had a 10x lower userbase? Without any comparison this number say little to nothing for a 15Mio userbase, knowing that their biggest fans will get it as early as they can and that this selling-rate will flatten down. Was the same with FSX.

The point is, this may end up being a project that sells $10 million USD in revenue for PMDG, especially when it starts selling for XBox users. How many flight sim add-ons in the past, before MSFS, have sold $10 million USD in revenue?

And the user base for MSFS maybe more than 10x FSX/P3D. Randazzo said the market is 1000 times larger than P3D because of MSFS, and maybe even larger than 1000 times than P3D in his interview with Sky Blue https://youtu.be/QByw5jN43Bc?si=YAI7zWdaYgDV03HG&t=4067. Now I think Randazzo is exaggerating, but certainly with the XBox users of MSFS taken into consideration, the user base in MSFS is probably over 10x that of FSX/P3D.

Edited June 26, 20241 yr by abrams_tank