Many of us spent decades flying on now retired planes that we would love to simulate now. Agree. 

10 hours ago, fsiscool said:

Maybe somebody is lucky going through this page (or other similar ones) and is able to find the panels?

Walkarounds – Airlinercafe

I went through a few of them (757, 767) and did not find the featured panels.

If it was a 787 the paint would be peeling off it (it’s due to the carbon fibre )

Not mentioned much so far but it's possible it's a 747 Classic?  It fits into that theoretical time frame for this style of part as well.  PMDG has had a lot of request for the 100-300 747 come up in it's forums!

This seems about as likely as the 737 Classic.  I did browse some 747-100 photos and came up empty but that does not mean anything!

Also the 747-100 or 200 is being made by someone?  Just Flight maybe?  Not much news on it lately!

I am getting tired of guessing.  Will just have to wait for the official announcement whenever that is?  One things for sure I am almost 100% confident it has been mentioned in this thread!

12 hours ago, jon b said:

If it was a 787 the paint would be peeling off it (it’s due to the carbon fibre )

Yes, also, looking at the images of the 787 walkaround, the highly integrated design with much less fasteners and panels is very obvious.

Edited August 30, 20241 yr by fsiscool

16 hours ago, mspencer said:

How well do aircraft largely removed from service do commercially?

Well enough that JustFlight is pretty much gobbling up the market and continues to expand their classic aircraft pipeline. Upcoming is the A300, 747, F100/F70 and Avro RJs and this is just from JustFlight. We've got Milviz doing the 732, FSS with the 727F and SWS/FSRebord with the entire 727 lineup.

1 hour ago, Lucky38i said:

Upcoming is the A300, 747, F100/F70 and Avro RJs and this is just from JustFlight. We've got Milviz doing the 732, FSS with the 727F and SWS/FSRebord with the entire 727 lineup.

Yup, popular enough. IMO, there is even space in the market for more than one version of a popular retro airliner (a mid-tier and a 'study level' of each).

I'm sure if the top-tier airliner devs wanted to release a 747-200 or a DC-9, the sales figures would be alright. Though the opportunity cost of not selling contemporary airliners first means retro aircraft would be worked on at a later date.

The popularity of older aircraft is interesting, and I’d love to see an age breakdown of who is buying them.  Is it people like me (and older)…in my mid 40’s with a lot of nostalgia for the aircraft of my childhood?  (Note: where is my DC-9-30? 😀).  

How much interest is there among the younger generation of simmers who maybe never had the chance to fly on these classic beasts, or see them fly?

Not sure if anyone has that kind of age based data, but it sure would be interesting.

20 minutes ago, regis9 said:

The popularity of older aircraft is interesting, and I’d love to see an age breakdown of who is buying them.  Is it people like me (and older)…in my mid 40’s with a lot of nostalgia for the aircraft of my childhood?  (Note: where is my DC-9-30? 😀).  

How much interest is there among the younger generation of simmers who maybe never had the chance to fly on these classic beasts, or see them fly?

Not sure if anyone has that kind of age based data, but it sure would be interesting.

I fly classics cause magenta flying, to me personally is just atrociously boring. None of the classic aircraft that FSS or JF have released, have I personally seen irl or have an attachment to. They are just a lot more stimulating to fly.

 

44 minutes ago, F737MAX said:

there is even space in the market for more than one version of a popular retro airliner (a mid-tier and a 'study level' of each).

Speaking of, I'm curious how that 707 will be.

Another plane not mentioned in the 777x.  PMDG at one time has said they plan to make it.  However that was a while ago.  Its not even in service yet and with the latest problems with the engine mounts probably won't be in service anytime real soon.  Also its possible that is why nobody recognizes the part since its not in service yet so other than the engineers working on it nobody will figure it out at this point.  I kind of doubt its the 777x but who knows?  I don't think even PMDG would have such details yet but again who knows?  It would be worth looking at detailed photos of the 777x's unique features like the new engines and the wings folding up if you can find detailed pictures!

Also in recent photo of the 777F PMDG posted it was indicated its next aircraft was teased in the photo.  All you could see was the roof line of it.   It was inconclusive at the time what plane it was or if even that plane was the part of the photograph we were actually looking at.  Parked next to the 777F was the 747 Dreamlifter.  I doubt its that plane!

As for older aircraft especially airliners we definitely need more of them in the sim.  I think they will be huge sellers since a lot of older folks play FS.  In fact it would not surprise me if the highest average age for MSFS users is 40+ years old.  That particular age group definitely has memories of planes we don't currently have in MSFS.  Also this particular age group tends to have a bit more disposable income.  So they will buy up all the older planes they can get there hands on.

   

I 'grew up' with the fabulous 767 from Eric Ernst. One of the first airliners (FS2000, I guess) with a nearly completely working cockpit. With this ship I learned how to handle airliners. I would love to see a decent 767-300. But I guess this is not the plane PMDG has in the works (and even if they do one, they would do a 767-400,. cause they have the cockpit already).

17 minutes ago, Watsi said:

I 'grew up' with the fabulous 767 from Eric Ernst. One of the first airliners (FS2000, I guess) 

Even before that, the late Captain Ernst had published a freeware panel (that's what they were called at the time) of the 767 for FS98. No fancy management computers but way ahead of what was available at the time. This was actually the beginning of what later became the 767 PIC for FS2000 which could still rank at the very top had it been published today.

37 minutes ago, ha5mvo said:

which could still rank at the very top had it been published today.

Apart from the 2D cockpit... 😄

I remember a while back writing on the PMDG forums saying I'd sell my nan for a PMDG Airbus of some form and RSR asking how much! 🤔 He still hasn't made me an offer 😜