I spotted those too!

 

So what features got enhanced with this update ? Not trying to be snark. It just states three aircraft have been enhanced but no details as to what ways they were enhanced ?

1 minute ago, Maxis said:

So what features got enhanced with this update ? Not trying to be snark. It just states three aircraft have been enhanced but no details as to what ways they were enhanced ?

The patch notes aren't out yet.

But from what we know from dev streams, the Neov2 has performance updates, faster takeoff thrust and a whole new LNAV.

Edited October 1, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

Seems crazy to me that no one on the MS testing team has Navigraph.  Like that has to be one of the most widely used add-ons in the community.

6 minutes ago, nrunning24 said:

Seems crazy to me that no one on the MS testing team has Navigraph.  Like that has to be one of the most widely used add-ons in the community.

It's not their job to make sure addons are compatible.

5 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

It's not their job to make sure addons are compatible.

Disagree, both parties are responsible for fluid implementation of new patches. I am sure if ASOBO would give time and data well in advance to Navigraph guys they would manage.

The question is! Does navigraph know?

6 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

It's not their job to make sure addons are compatible.

I'm not saying its their job and I'm sure it will be fixed ASAP, I'm just more surprised that what is likely the most popular addon in the community wasn't on any of their computers while before releasing to the public.  And what do you expect 3rd party devs to do, as of this moment Navigraph has no clue why their data is causing a CTD, as MS haven't published anything to them on the changes.  Not the most friendly update process when your whole money making platform is selling 3rd party content via your store.

Yes. Navigraph know. https://forum.navigraph.com/t/aau3-and-navigraph-crash-msfs/17062

I'm not seeing any missing textures in the NeoV2 cockpit. But I am using ini made livery from their launcher + updated the A320 Enhancement package in the content manager.

FYI FOR BETA GROUP MEMBERS.  MS posted earlier today that only non-beta group users were updated this morning meaning that if you are a regular beta tester you did not receive the update like me today…until now!

I just got the update and as it was loading I removed the offending airac and am currently on the load screen.  Fingers crossed.  If I get the dreaded CTD I will update.

-B

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16 minutes ago, Beardyman said:

Disagree, both parties are responsible for fluid implementation of new patches. I am sure if ASOBO would give time and data well in advance to Navigraph guys they would manage.

That is not how it works.

Navigraph is an add-on FOR MSFS. It's Navigraph's responsibility to make sure that it works well with MSFS as well as the other sims it is to be used with. 

By your logic, it'd be Microsoft's responsibility to make sure every add-on for MSFS on the planet works with every update, which is obviously impossible and highly illogical to request.

The fact that Navigraph says "it's a sim issue" means that they don't get how this works either, so you're in good company. 

If their add-on doesn't work with the simulator, it's their issue, not a sim issue. The fact that an update of the simulator initiated the problem is irrelevant. The responsibility to ensure compatibility lays always with the add-on developer. Never with the main software's developer.

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1 minute ago, Abriael said:

That is not how it works.

Navigraph is an add-on FOR MSFS. It's Navigraph's responsibility to make sure that it works well with MSFS as well as the other sims it is to be used with. 

By your logic, it'd be Microsoft's responsibility to make sure every add-on for MSFS on the planet works with every update, which is obviously impossible and highly illogical to request.

And they will, but how are they supposed to know to change something to make it work when MSFS pushes an update with no notice and no change list?   Like MS should have someone on the testing team with at least a few of the most popular add ons so they can at least give advance notice to the devs that changes are needed.

1 minute ago, nrunning24 said:

And they will, but how are they supposed to know to change something to make it work when MSFS pushes an update with no notice and no change list?   Like MS should have someone on the testing team with at least a few of the most popular add ons so they can at least give advance notice to the devs that changes are needed.

MS/Asobo struggle testing their own software let alone others 😂 it's an interesting discussion though, i recall similar from way back when in the car racing sim world, certainly plenty of Pros & Cons for a Dev to test 3rd party mods/apps before update releases.

1 minute ago, nrunning24 said:

And they will, but how are they supposed to know to change something to make it work when MSFS pushes an update with no notice and no change list?   Like MS should have someone on the testing team with at least a few of the most popular add ons so they can at least give advance notice to the devs that changes are needed.

The fact that the AAU3 was coming today was known and previously announced. There was plenty of notice. 

"a few of the most popular addons" is a very elastic string to hang from. Who decides where to draw the line? There is a TON of popular add-ons out there. 

If an add-on stops working after an update, it's that add-on's developer's responsibility to either find a solution or reach out for help.

They have only one software to ensure compatibility with (or a few, in Navigraph's case). The simulator's developer would have thousands to keep track of unless they start making favorites, which is silly to suggest.