1 hour ago, UAL4life said:

Lmao it’s getting banned? Wow. Asobo is Jank. 

Guess we gotta wait on the official decision.
The best possible outcome will be REX and MS/Asobo are in the works behind the scenes with some sort of resolution and the addon stays.
Worst outcome it gets blacklisted from MSFS and us customers are out of our measly $13 and back to the same bland vanilla visuals.🤣
Gotta accept whatever happens at this point, but what I will not accept is MS/Asobo making this out to be some sort of intentional malice on the customer's end.

I honestly bought this addon thinking REX and MS/Asobo had possibly worked something out as far as the MSFS engine modification TOS. Thinking or else REX would have not released it at all. I'm sure many other customers had the same assumptions as well. Especially after the whole prior color/tone value tweak that was frowned upon by MS/Asobo. I surely would not have even touched this addon If I knew we were still straddling the line of TOS violations. I will surely pay closer attention to such situations and even ask MS/Asobo officials before buying an addon of this nature next time. Again a simple warning or heads up by the official forum staff would have been the common sense approach, but giving them benefit of doubt, maybe they were just as out of the loop as us users. Hence why the REX Atmos thread grew to 77 pages and was alive and visible to the public just 48 hours ago. All good either way stuff happens!

Edited October 5, 20241 yr by blueshark747

3 hours ago, blueshark747 said:

Hence why the REX Atmos thread grew to 77 pages

77 posts not pages. 

 

Anyway you need to read the Terms & Conditions of MSFS the product that you bought, then maybe you'll understand why they don't want to have talk about possible "hacking" mods on their forum, plenty of previous discussion on this subject on AVSim. MS aren't doing anything wrong and if they end up saying Atmos is OK then all will be good, if not not great loss.

9 hours ago, blueshark747 said:

REX Atmos isn't some exe hack

It quite literally is.. it’s a memory injection tool which is against TOS. Many companies do not officially support memory injection tools because they’re not using the SDK and thus what they’re doing cannot be vetted. Asobo isn’t doing something unique here. 
 

This is the case for all applications that depend on some form of memory injection. 

3 hours ago, Lucky38i said:

It quite literally is.. it’s a memory injection tool which is against TOS. Many companies do not officially support memory injection tools because they’re not using the SDK and thus what they’re doing cannot be vetted. Asobo isn’t doing something unique here. 
 

This is the case for all applications that depend on some form of memory injection. 

Thanks for the clarification, Yes I really placed REX as a company to higher practice standards and assumed a company with such a track record of good clean products would be vetted and approved before REX Atmos was released to the public. Honestly wouldn't expect them to pull such a move fearing MS/Asobo would promptly send a cease and desist with possible legal actions . This seemed pretty bold, but then again we don't know the whole story behind the scenes and I hope this issue is just something minor between the two parties that is currently being resolved. It's really the wild wild west out here these days I see!🤣😂 

Edited October 5, 20241 yr by blueshark747

15 hours ago, blueshark747 said:

Not even sure which "suspicious hack" of an addon they are even referring to.

REX Atmos.

so whats the difference between this  and  active sky ms

2 hours ago, blueshark747 said:

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It's really the wild wild west out here these days I see!🤣😂 

This was a lot of word salad, that I’m not entirely sure what you’re trying to portray.

Memory injection was a common practice in P3D and FSX days to achieve a desired result due to constraints with the SDK. Back then there was also no official forums for these sims. None the less this common practice is still against TOS, there was just no official community space with which to ban the discussion of these products. For MSFS there is. 
 

it’s not some secret conspiracy or drama (that might I say you misconstruing as and unnecessarily bringing here to curry favour on your side). This is a simple banning the discussion of products that break TOS in an official community space. If you’re not happy with that then just discuss the product elsewhere, there’s loads of flight sim community spaces.

43 minutes ago, Lucky38i said:

This was a lot of word salad, that I’m not entirely sure what you’re trying to portray.

Memory injection was a common practice in P3D and FSX days to achieve a desired result due to constraints with the SDK. Back then there was also no official forums for these sims. None the less this common practice is still against TOS, there was just no official community space with which to ban the discussion of these products. For MSFS there is. 
 

it’s not some secret conspiracy or drama (that might I say you misconstruing as and unnecessarily bringing here to curry favour on your side). This is a simple banning the discussion of products that break TOS in an official community space. If you’re not happy with that then just discuss the product elsewhere, there’s loads of flight sim community spaces.

This forum has no place for logic like that!!! If you aren't being emotional you shouldn't be here 😉  j/k

4 hours ago, pete_auau said:

so whats the difference between this  and  active sky ms

Active Sky is using the SDK to control the weather.

The irony in Microsoft is that many of their development platforms rely on “OpenSource” … like say WASM for example which is entirely “OpenSource” and “free” … yet MSFS wouldn’t exist without WASM.

Here is an idea, how about Microsoft provide an SDK “for all” that can actually accomplish what users want?

On 10/4/2024 at 11:15 PM, UAL4life said:

Lmao it’s getting banned? Wow. Asobo is Jank. 

It violates the TOS/EULA or whatever.

It’s just another excuse in a long line of excuses from Asobo to hide their shortfalls. 

Edited October 6, 20241 yr by UAL4life

Microsoft and Asobo are influenced by  partners, helping them lose income by leaving out of the marketplace prolific developers

5 hours ago, CO2Neutral said:

The irony in Microsoft is that many of their development platforms rely on “OpenSource” … like say WASM for example which is entirely “OpenSource” and “free” … yet MSFS wouldn’t exist without WASM.

Here is an idea, how about Microsoft provide an SDK “for all” that can actually accomplish what users want?

absolutely; there is lots going behind the scenes for sure. Their loss.

Edited October 6, 20241 yr by Marc22

Well, some might accept the benaviour over in those forums because their forum, their rules. To me it is a joke, the main intention here is clearly censorship on areas that might publically denonstrate the inability of Asobo on certain aspects. They simply do not want this, it is not only if you post about forbidden addons, but also if you write anything else using facts going in the same direction. As soon as your post contains fact underlying the shortcomings of the sim, bang, it gets censored. You are only allowed to discuss things that might not point this inability out or the devs already gave the slightest impression of fixing it sometime. 

In the end you have a forum full of yaysayers praising the product. And this is what they want. Simple as that.