Figured I'd create a thread specifically for this new CPU.

It was released yesterday but alas, it seems to be a bit of a paper launch with limited retailers carrying it and generally low stock. EU situation seems even worse. I ordered mine from Proshop (.dk) the second it went up, with an estimated delivery of the 12th but who knows, other retailers are suggesting they have nothing coming with waiting times far into December. It does lend credence to the suggestion that it was launched early (originally slated for Q1 2025) as a response both to Intel's fumbling but also the rest of the 9000-series line-up not doing as well as anticipated, thus they haven't had time to properly prepare for release and just got it out the door quickly.

But overall, every review seems very positive thus far. We're seeing benchmarks with a 16% uplift in MSFS over the 7800X3D (Thanks Allard): https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-review-devastating-gaming-performance/2

And what makes it even more interesting, is the 9800X3D is actually capable of old-fashioned overclocking now thanks for putting the 3D cache underneath it all, so it also runs cooler with more overhead.

JayzTwoCents made a video of how easy it is to add another 400MHz (and you could absolutely go higher, I'm sure), which could turn that MSFS uplift into a 20% increase or more instead;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDNg5KiQ8iY

 

So overall, seems AMD has knocked it out of the park once more. What do you reckon, anyone doing the upgrade or skipping?

Edited November 8, 20241 yr by Sethos

So 16% improvement @ 1080p. When flying in VR, I assume it will be much less than that.

I'll wait for the 9950X3D to make a decision. Upgrading first to a 5090 seems to make more sense to me.

Edited November 8, 20241 yr by GCBraun

1 hour ago, Sethos said:

Figured I'd create a thread specifically for this new CPU.

It was released yesterday but alas, it seems to be a bit of a paper launch with limited retailers carrying it and generally low stock. EU situation seems even worse. I ordered mine from Proshop (.dk) the second it went up, with an estimated delivery of the 12th but who knows, other retailers are suggesting they have nothing coming with waiting times far into December. It does lend credence to the suggestion that it was launched early (originally slated for Q1 2025) as a response both to Intel's fumbling but also the rest of the 9000-series line-up not doing as well as anticipated, thus they haven't had time to properly prepare for release and just got it out the door quickly.

But overall, every review seems very positive thus far. We're seeing benchmarks with a 16% uplift in MSFS over the 7800X3D (Thanks Allard): https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-review-devastating-gaming-performance/2

And what makes it even more interesting, is the 9800X3D is actually capable of old-fashioned overclocking now thanks for putting the 3D cache underneath it all, so it also runs cooler with more overhead.

JayzTwoCents made a video of how easy it is to add another 400MHz (and you could absolutely go higher, I'm sure), which could turn that MSFS uplift into a 20% increase or more instead;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDNg5KiQ8iY

 

So overall, seems AMD has knocked it out of the park once more. What do you reckon, anyone doing the upgrade or skipping?

Orderd from INET its on the way, have it on monday

The AMD heady days of the spanking Intel are back (remembering the Athlon 64 X2 CPUs from about 20 years ago).  Now I'm really itching for a new build to replace my aging out i7 10700k, which obviously will include an nvidia 50 series card.  Heady days are ahead indeed, BRING IT ON!

24 minutes ago, TheFamilyMan said:

The AMD heady days of the spanking Intel are back (remembering the Athlon 64 X2 CPUs from about 20 years ago).  Now I'm really itching for a new build to replace my aging out i7 10700k, which obviously will include an nvidia 50 series card.  Heady days are ahead indeed, BRING IT ON!

I have one Golden sample FX57 cpuz 4ghz very rare , plan to do a retro PC mobo Lanparty and BH5 mems gpu have AMD X800 and Nv7800

8 hours ago, westman said:

Orderd from INET its on the way, have it on monday

Looking forward to hearing some real world comparisions. What CPU are you upgrading from?

 

9 hours ago, GCBraun said:

So 16% improvement @ 1080p. When flying in VR, I assume it will be much less than that.

I'll wait for the 9950X3D to make a decision. Upgrading first to a 5090 seems to make more sense to me.

I think I'm the same. I'm using a 7950X3D at the moment and with the rumors that the 9950X3D will have the V-Cache on all cores I think thats worth hanging out for. Plus the 5090 (if reports are true about its improvements over the 4090) will be a big upgrade!

Been waiting for this but 829 AUD - a 15% premium on top of what the 7800X3D is going for in Australia.  But in bang for your buck terms the price increase is in line with the  performace lift it seems you can get in MSFS2020 over 7800X3D.  So, as others have noted, Intel is belted out of the park and it seems it could be another two years before they might have CPU that can compete with AMD - at least in games.

Bruce

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-review-devastating-gaming-performance/2?fbclid=IwY2xjawGaen1leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHeBVDpVeGDmJ2-h87CkRj6fEBK-uo8445vyNPai_kfFaH8jNxiMgB4zavw_aem_dTXiz4T9p5SmeSnzStHE9g

Edited November 9, 20241 yr by Silverbird

Itching to have 2nd pc with 9800x3d. 

I have a 4090 paired with 12900K already.

Perhaps I buy a ready pc with 4080 at lower price and swap them.

It seems at least 50% uplift for me, I think.

Edit:

 

My main FOMO issue is now the rumours surrounding 2025 Q1 releases i.e. 5090/9950X3D.

It would make me regret buying a new setup right now. Might better hold my horses.

Edited November 9, 20241 yr by Piotr007

Thing is, if I might add.

If to buy a new pc it would be best go for 64 gb ddr5 ram with best mobo with best ryzen 9 option with best gpu 5th gen rtx with best cooling solution. It's best allround for me as I already have 4090 rtx.

A bit sad to wait, but most sane/financial/performance wise decision for me.

Why would you want a 9800x3D when you already have a 7800x3D and run 4k? It's already a tiny margin at 1080p with some titles, paying $500+ for maybe 3-5% improvement at 4k vs the 7800x3D which will NOT be noticeable seems like a huge waste of money.

I have the exact same system as my father but he runs a 7800x3D instead of this 7600x, do we NOTICE any difference? Sorry to spoil your dreams, no there isn't any. He does have 5-6fps more in some areas but... when you have a gsync monitor and are already at 90+fps that makes zero difference. Less heat, less money wasted...

Maybe i'm just getting old and wrong 

Published Youtube 10 minutes ago, at 10:20 is MSFS. The familiar channel of Hardware Unboxed.

 

3 hours ago, Nuno Pinto said:

Why would you want a 9800x3D when you already have a 7800x3D and run 4k? It's already a tiny margin at 1080p with some titles, paying $500+ for maybe 3-5% improvement at 4k vs the 7800x3D which will NOT be noticeable seems like a huge waste of money.

I have the exact same system as my father but he runs a 7800x3D instead of this 7600x, do we NOTICE any difference? Sorry to spoil your dreams, no there isn't any. He does have 5-6fps more in some areas but... when you have a gsync monitor and are already at 90+fps that makes zero difference. Less heat, less money wasted...

Maybe i'm just getting old and wrong 

MSFS goes between being CPU limited or GPU limited depending on where you fly, the weather, traffic and so on. So it's absolutely worth the upgrade if you're buying it for flight sim use.
I saw a massive uplift going from 5900X to 5800X3D at 2560x1440 a couple of years ago.

Edited November 9, 20241 yr by Republic3D

To the point of gains at different resolutions, that is obviously the age old caveat of looking at static benchmarks. You gotta extrapolate the data by applying it to your own personal use-case, how much it benefits you. These benchmarks just tells you the theoretical improvement of a given piece of hardware, then it's up to the user to apply it to their environment and judge if it's worth it. So obviously, increasing resolution or doing something else that increases the GPU load, will obviously take away work from the CPU. Same when a new GPU drops, MSFS is very CPU heavy and you definitely won't see some linear 20-30% increase because the benchmarks tells you in every scenario.

As to the point of MSFS at 4K, you absolutely do not see the same diminishing returns as you do other titles, definitely not down to 2-3%. MSFS, as Republic mentions, is very CPU bound in many scenarios, even at 4K. Increased render distance, objects in the scene, AI-traffic and the number of them, it's all CPU-bound. If you're an airline guy, doing busy events, flying in and out of big airports, having lots of AI, you'll definitely see the benefit of CPU upgrades.

Also, 1080p and 1440p are still the most used resolutions by far. Latest Steam Hardware Survey has 4K sitting at a whopping 3.68% of users, whilst 1080p is in the lead with 56.98% and 1440p in second with an even 20.00% - So I think most users, even around here, would feel even that upgrade.

That said, outside of pure max framerate numbers, there's also the case of 1% and 0.1% lows, I'd even go as far as saying those are the most important numbers and the X3Ds and subsequent upgrades usually have some great numbers in that category. Those are the numbers that really dictates how it feels in terms of smoothness and frame delivery. So it's always great to increase those, because that also benefits you when using frame generation technologies, as those stutters and dips also manifest themselves even when those extra frames are introduced.

i uppgrade my second Pc 7800X3D its the third time 5800X3D to 7800X3D was worth it. think this have more potential.

my main Rig is 7950X3D if this uppgrade is what think i uppgrade to a 9950X3D