8 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

I think it will be a long time before people stop flying 2020, it does too many things well.

I agree

I also believe that people with older systems and/or poor internet access will get a much better experience with 2020

I predict: 

The Golden Era of MSFS 2020 will be 2022-2026.

The Golden Era of MSFS 2024 will be 2026-2030.

 

 

Edited January 10, 20251 yr by prolixindec

9 hours ago, prolixindec said:

The Golden Era of MSFS 2024 will be 2026-2030

I am 100% certain that by 2027/28 or so - Asobo will announce a new version of sim, MSFS 2028 anyone? 🤣

Are airport addon developers likely to offer MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024 versions of future products? The reason I ask is because I am not certain how well my 2015 specification PC will run MSFS 2024. I run MSFS 2020 in DX11 mode, and my current PC handles this superbly. However, with only 6GB VRAM on my GTX 980Ti, I do not know if this will be enough to run MSFS 2024 at similar detail levels in DX12 mode.

In short, I have access to all of the aircraft that I want in MSFS 2020 (I own the PMDG 737-600 and JustFlight Avro RJ, and the only other aircraft that I want is the PMDG 777F), so if MSFS 2020 versions of airports continue to be released, then I am sorted. Of course, it would be nice to have some of the upgraded features in MSFS 2024 (particularly the improved flight dynamics and ground handling), but beggars can't be choosers

15 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

However, with only 6GB VRAM on my GTX 980Ti, I do not know if this will be enough to run MSFS 2024 at similar detail levels in DX12 mode.

I think you took several years to go from P3D to 2020, and with the best will in the world, your specs aren’t likely to give you any kind of joy in 2024. I’d stay where you are until you can upgrade your hardware.

1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

Are airport addon developers likely to offer MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024 versions of future products?

It is unclear at this point as to what will happen in terms of developers supporting both sims - For now it seems most developers are supporting both versions since user base for 2020 is higher. I'd say give it 6 months or so and then possibly developers will re-evaluate the current market situation. If user number decreases with 2020 then it is likely they will shift their focus on 2024 entirely. But this also depends on whether Asobo fixes the known issues on 2024 and whether this convinces people to make full transition to newer sim. 

Edited January 10, 20251 yr by CAP1234

4 minutes ago, CAP1234 said:

It is unclear at this point as to what will happen in terms of developers supporting both sims - For now it seems most developers are supporting both versions since user base for 2020 is higher. I'd say give it 6 months or so and then possibly developers will re-evaluate the current market situation. If user number decreases with 2020 then it is likely they will shift their focus on 2024 entirely. But this also depends on whether Asobo fixes the known issues on 2024 and whether this convinces people to make full transition to newer sim. 

I think developers like PMDG got burned trying to out-fix the frequent changes in MS 2020 for the first year or two. At this point, they probably feel that trying to adapt to 2024 is like shooting a moving target. They are probably just going to sit it out and wait for the smoke to clear, however long that takes. 

1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

Are airport addon developers likely to offer MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024 versions of future products? The reason I ask is because I am not certain how well my 2015 specification PC will run MSFS 2024. I run MSFS 2020 in DX11 mode, and my current PC handles this superbly. However, with only 6GB VRAM on my GTX 980Ti, I do not know if this will be enough to run MSFS 2024 at similar detail levels in DX12 mode.

In short, I have access to all of the aircraft that I want in MSFS 2020 (I own the PMDG 737-600 and JustFlight Avro RJ, and the only other aircraft that I want is the PMDG 777F), so if MSFS 2020 versions of airports continue to be released, then I am sorted. Of course, it would be nice to have some of the upgraded features in MSFS 2024 (particularly the improved flight dynamics and ground handling), but beggars can't be choosers

MS 2020/2024 is unlikely ever to be optimised enough to run your GPU at 100% anyway. 

 

its a Joke btw egg man 

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

I think developers like PMDG got burned trying to out-fix the frequent changes in MS 2020 for the first year or two. At this point, they probably feel that trying to adapt to 2024 is like shooting a moving target. They are probably just going to sit it out and wait for the smoke to clear, however long that takes. 

Yep that's basically it - ironically PMDG should release 777-200ER for both versions of the sim (2020/2024) as since the development began on 2020 version. But that's another topic on its own. How long they are going to continue to support both versions of sim - it is uncertainty at this point. 

On 1/10/2025 at 1:57 PM, scotchegg said:

I think you took several years to go from P3D to 2020, and with the best will in the world, your specs aren’t likely to give you any kind of joy in 2024. I’d stay where you are until you can upgrade your hardware.

agreed

This picture is the main "wrong" thing I encounter.

There are areas somewhat like this in MSFS2020, but in MSFS2024 I encounter areas like this absolutely everywhere, and it makes me wonder why the abrupt downgrade in Asobos ability to designate foliage.

I keep wondering if it has to do with their separation with Blackshark, and if whatever database they are using now is inferior in comparison. (By the way, this area in 2020 is not great, either)

LHBS Area.

Edited January 22, 20251 yr by HiFlyer

41 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

This picture is the main "wrong" thing I encounter.

I agree. Some of the locations now are truly appalling. Try Vegas - it's a no-go area now. I've kept my 2020 system so I can always go back to that for these areas, but honestly, a new release of any product shouldn't have this level of retrograde content.

1 hour ago, HiFlyer said:

I keep wondering if it has to do with their separation with Blackshark, and if whatever database they are using now is inferior in comparison.

Buildings as well, Blackshark seemed a lot better at filling chaotic cities like New Delhi with properly-matched buildings. The new MS assignments are leaving a lot of gaps with just the ortho showing.

12 hours ago, scotchegg said:

Buildings as well, Blackshark seemed a lot better at filling chaotic cities like New Delhi with properly-matched buildings. The new MS assignments are leaving a lot of gaps with just the ortho showing.

I would love to see a comparison of that between MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024. Since I use autogen mode exclusively, stuff like that matters to me.

3 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

I would love to see a comparison of that between MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024. Since I use autogen mode exclusively, stuff like that matters to me.

With the best will in the world, if you’re using a 980, differences in autogen placement aren’t likely to make a material difference.